Dragon Lives!

[John Barrett]

The link is live
https://www.red.com/DSMC2-BRAIN?qua...Pcx_P2xb-5B4fwqMSfgs0xZJXpGoS4mmB9Ik36NO4osGc

 

[Richard Yau]

Did the Epic Dragon users get left out?

 

[Patrick Tresch]

There was an Epic to Weapon upgrade programm in 2016.

 

[Richard Yau]

There was an Epic to Weapon upgrade programm in 2016.

. That boat has sailed.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

Ddi the Epic Dragon users get left out?

There still is one...

https://www.red.com/DSMC2-GEMINI-5K-S35-Trade-In-for-EPIC-SCARLET-DRAGON-Owners

 

[Richard Yau]

What I meant was, Epic Dragon users can't get in on this unified 5K Dragon-X trade in program.

 

[Darren West]

Does anyone know what the difference between the DSMC2 Dragon 6K (Magnesium) and the DSMC2 Dragon X 5K?
I appreciate there is 1K difference but I'm confused why RED released the Dragon X with the already tried and tested DSMC2 Dragon 6K....

 

[Samir Patel]

Does anyone know what the difference between the DSMC2 Dragon 6K (Magnesium) and the DSMC2 Dragon X 5K?
I appreciate there is 1K difference but I'm confused why RED released the Dragon X with the already tried and tested DSMC2 Dragon 6K....

One shoots 6K... other doesn't. :/

 

[Bob Gundu]

Does anyone know what the difference between the DSMC2 Dragon 6K (Magnesium) and the DSMC2 Dragon X 5K?
I appreciate there is 1K difference but I'm confused why RED released the Dragon X with the already tried and tested DSMC2 Dragon 6K....

The new 5K Dragon is in an updated unified body and I'm guessing cheaper to make than the 6K variant.

 

[Darren West]

Bob, Not sure what you mean by unified body. The links below show both cameras from the same angle and they look the same to me.
Samir, other than the obvious 5k, 6K !!

I'm just a little confused with the simplifying of the new RED lineup.

RED Dragon X DSMC2 5K
https://www.red.com/SSP Application...17_0.png?resizeid=5&resizeh=1200&resizew=1200

RED Dragon DSMC2 6K
https://cdn.cvp.com/images/products...ed-weapon-magnesium---skin-tone-highlight.jpg

 

[Samir Patel]

Bob, Not sure what you mean by unified body. The links below show both cameras from the same angle and they look the same to me.
Samir, other than the obvious 5k, 6K !!

I'm just a little confused with the simplifying of the new RED lineup.

RED Dragon X DSMC2 5K
https://www.red.com/SSP Application...17_0.png?resizeid=5&resizeh=1200&resizew=1200

RED Dragon DSMC2 6K
https://cdn.cvp.com/images/products...ed-weapon-magnesium---skin-tone-highlight.jpg

Hehe. I was just making fun. Anyway so originally DSMC2 6K dragon was DSMC2 (but back then that denoted the body change from DSMC1 think old Epic-MX, Scarlet-MX and Epic Dragon-MX etc.) This was the first iteration of this body change. So it lacks some of the new features kicked off by Helium sensor and on cameras mainly in camera IPP2+33x33 Lut in camera things.

So now this new Dragon-X 5K is in this new "unified DSMC2 body"- the DSMC2 now denotes sped up internals gives you those new things IPP2 in cam etc without the 6K dragon. A reason a few of us are salty. Great if you want to shoot 5K. Like I said still doesn't shoot 6K.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

FYI the DSMC2 Dragon 6k Magnesium doesn't have the same sensor block (sensor and protective glass) as other DSMC2 cameras like Helium have.

So for example you can't mount the ABT Speedmount to a Magnesium Dragon camera, this would work with a Helium.

Pat

 

[Darren West]

Samir and Patrick, thanks for the feedback.

Even though there have been these "developments" I think I'll stick with what I have...Thanks

 

[Darren West]

Samir,

Just taken a look at the next firmware update (Version 7.1.0.1) and looks as though the IPP2 is addressed...so not that much different after all.

"Changed IPP2 to be the default image pipeline (Output Tone Map: Low, Highlight Roll-off: Soft)"
https://www.red.com/downloads/options?itemInternalId=16155&version=0

Cheers
Darren

 

[Aaron Green]

Here is a frame from recent work with the Dragon X for those curious.

 

[Mike P.]

Whew! What ISO and OLPF Aaron? Looking mighty clean (did you use noise reduction?)

 

[Aaron Green]

Whew! What ISO and OLPF Aaron? Looking mighty clean (did you use noise reduction?)

This was ISO 1000. No noise reduction at all. I’m using the standard OLPF.