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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

do you have information about the smaller Red One?

Goose said:
If its a wish list why not wish for 4k...?!
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Because there's already a 4K camera available and the "mini" is supposed to be mini! To me, 4K implies a relatively big, heavy duty cam, and relatively expensive.

Red could wipe out the prosumer market of Sony, Pani, and the others if they came out with a 2K raw cam the size of the HVX (or smaller) for something in the sub $7K range. However, one big (non-tech) problem might be manufacturing such a cam. It might be hard to build this sort of cam here in the OC. ??? I'm sure JL has this all under control though. :)

Regards .............. and "go mini"
JohnG
 
Personally I think the mini-RED will be introduced to dominate the lower format echelons topping out at max 1080P. 'Big Momma' will take care of the 2 - 4k playing field whilst 'Bubba' becomes to playground bully!.......just a thought.

Cheers,
Mark.
 
Um, do we even know if it's a motion image camera at all? What if it's a DSLR, or something else entirely?

I, for one, would love to see a 1080p Redcode RAW 6lbs camera with a fixed 18-85mm f2.8 lens recording to CF card. $5K total, and it would kill JVC, Panny and Sony's hi-end consumer sales. Who would buy an HDV camera then?
 
hmmmmm, maybe I'm assuming, like many others, that this will be a motion cam. I guess NAB will reveal all.......man thats a long wait. But it would certainly kick ass if that were the scenario.....

HDV is the spawn of satan......working with my first and last cam at the moment (Sony Z1). Not saying it can't produce a nice image but it just can't stand up in post.....artifacts and debris everywhere....so frustrating.
 
Jaime is right... We don't know anything right now. All we know is that it's a "professional pocket camera". Whatever that means.

There have already been several threads here discussing everyones wishes and guesses regarding this camera. Personally, I'm hoping for something that can be held easily with one hand, Fit in a coat pocket, record to common flash media and shoot 2K resolution (or better) with a 2/3" sensor. Beyond that I'm anxious to see what NAB '08 reveals.
 
Rob Lohman said:
You have a problem with REDCODE?
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I don't have problem with CineformHD.
I love to have ONE codec for acquisition and editing.
After testing CineformRAW 2K samples from SI2K i know this better solution ever.
 
Laco Zamba said:
1. You can edit REDCODE onlice in FCP or
2. You can transcode REDCODE to Cineform
3. I see Acpect HD, Prospect HD/2K but no 4K
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1.PC
2.Waste time and disk space
3.Cineform codec don't have restriction and 4K ready- see thread about Cineform 4K workflow
 
Laco Zamba said:
I can't compare when footage is not shot in same conditions. Sorry.
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You can compare just CPU usage both codec with 2K samples.
Check also smart combination CineformRAW with Iridas SpeedGrade.
 
Laco,

You're not missing anything. Cineform is in rough beta form on the Mac and not technically available.

vsv is just an instigator and I'm proposing we all just ignore him from here on out. I'm not sure if what we're reading isn't just an act... Act or not, there's little rationality in his posts. He's spouting off about Cineform being 4K ready, yet he doesn't have all the tech details in place.
 
Laco Zamba said:
REDCODE today is Mac only and Cineform is PC only. How can I compare CPU usage? Am I missing something?
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But Cinefrom exist for MAC and PC ;)
Because Cineform codec for long time, every platform and Future of digital cinema.
 
Jannard said:
The RED Pocket Professional will likely be announced at NAB 2008... but it is NOT a replacement for, nor will it have the specs of... the RED ONE.

Jim
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Thanks for the update, Jim! I was kinda guessing that. Care to drop any hints beforehand as to what lens mounts it'll work with? Please?

I'm just looking for an excuse to start saving money to buy a Red PL-mount zoom.

Due to lack of info provided on the Pocket Camera, I gave up and went with a HV20 + SGpro 35mm adapter + Zacuto shoulder mount + my own external LCD combo (total under $4000), plus about $1500 worth of Nikon lenses (used primes, plus a 80-200 2.8 AF-D).

I hope your camera will deliver significantly better image quality than my combo for a similar price. But for every month that goes by without info on the Red Pocket Pro camera, I put more money into my current rig. Okay, a lot of this is designed to be transferable to a Red camera in the future, but if, for instance, you state that the Red Motor will be compatible with the Pocket Pro cam in the future, then I can look into buying one now for my HV20 rig and then migrating to your Pocket Pro later.

I really don't think it'll undercut sales of the Red One if your release info on the Pocket Pro camera before NAB. The Red One is awesome, just overkill for my needs.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I will be interested to see if there will be any real competition for the new Sony XDCAM EX. I suspect the Red Pocket Camera will be it, but I can't really see how.
 
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