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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Delivery Update...

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planet e said:
...and that is exactly why choice is good!

glad you're comfortable with yours! i'm thrilled with mine. it's early enough to get my camera sooner than later, but late enough for a few of the kinks to get worked out by these industrious early adopters.

i don't think i'd miss a thousand dollars as much as i would miss playing my tiny part in the drama....

fergus, if you have a specific question that isn't being answered here, you really should go ahead and e-mail or call kelly or RED. i've had pretty good luck with responses to both phone and e-mail--not always perfect, but i think they try pretty hard on their end. as long as you're not badgering them, i think it is perfectly fair to directly request information that you can't find online.
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Yeah, why is it that every time someone says something that doesn't fit perfectly with the group mentality here, they are instantly lambasted or stoned for their perceived dissidence?

I'm not even saying your choice to put a reservation down is a bad thing. Honestly, I don't care how you choose. I was voicing MY own opinion and the reason for MY own choice. Nothing to do with anyone else.

And in truth, what difference does it make at this point? We're so far down the queue, why would anyone need to put a reservation in at this point anyway? Why not just wait until production ramps to create a surplus? Or will the cameras always be produced on a made-to-order basis?

Just questions. Fanboys please calm down. I'm not trying to challenge anyone, or Precious. As I've said, I'm already sold. I'm intend to buy one as well. But it's weird...it's almost like if I ask too many unpopular questions, I might insult the camera gods, and they may not sell me one. Have to be careful what I say around here. :)
 
I don't know what I'm going to do about this schedule change! I met these Nigerian guys online who said if I can ship a RED to Lagos by November 30th they'll send me back two RED's in January. NOW IT'S ALL MESSED UP!

On a serious note, I am pretty frustrated. But I think its mostly because I really wanted to take part in the debugging of the camera. A camera that isn't quite working is more exciting to me than one that has all the kinks worked out. I'm assuming I don't represent the general population. I have RED engineering envy. I'm not expecting immediate clients from my camera so the idea that it's not fully working is apealling to me.

December and January are very slow times for my work. I was considering skipping town this year, as New York can be pretty miserable. I think RED is going to be very good as a New Years resolution. Unfortunately, if it gets delayed again, I'm going to take a hit tax wise.

December 30th is a weird delivery date. It means people working through Christmas? That makes me have low expectations for that date. I don't want you to deliver on that date actually, I want you to go home and hang some stockings or light kinara candles or whatever.... what I'm really trying to say is a hard and fast date is better than an early date.

I noticed something a little while back, and that was a clip that Jim put up from a racetrack. It was noted that there was no LCD or EVF used. I'm either reading into that or that speaks volumes about the reality on the ground in "REDland" and reflects positively on them.

IBloom
 
now that you raised the issue, ibloom, i'm kind of wondering about that december 30th delivery date as well. i mean, i'm perfectly happy to get my camera then, but it seems a little tough to be whippin' and ridin' the production team at that time of year. i'd be ok if they took a break, spread the holiday love around, and delivered mine a week or two later....
 
I think we can catch up pretty quickly... teething problems are usually short lived.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
I think we can catch up pretty quickly... teething problems are usually short lived.

Jim
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Mr. Jannard,

What's good sir? First, thank you for building this ridiculous ass camera. Unreal it is. Get's my blood percolating every time I think of the possibilities.

Anyway, can you please tip me on something? I want this camera, however, at the moment, I'm poor as hell. However, I'm working with some fairly large individuals who have taken a liking to me and a script I have. If I should be so blessed, and get to take the project into production, I'd want to shoot RED...realistically though, that wouldn't happen until at some point in '08 at the earliest. Obviously, the production could/would rent if it came down to that, but I still want one for myself regardless.

So, in light of where this camera is going to go, is it in my best interest to put in a reservation at this point? At this point, should I wait until production ramps to create a surplus? Or will the cameras always be produced on a made-to-order basis from reservation payments?

Thanks.
 
ibloom said:
I don't know what I'm going to do about this schedule change! I met these Nigerian guys online who said if I can ship a RED to Lagos by November 30th they'll send me back two RED's in January. NOW IT'S ALL MESSED UP!

On a serious note, I am pretty frustrated. But I think its mostly because I really wanted to take part in the debugging of the camera. A camera that isn't quite working is more exciting to me than one that has all the kinks worked out. I'm assuming I don't represent the general population. I have RED engineering envy. I'm not expecting immediate clients from my camera so the idea that it's not fully working is apealling to me.

December and January are very slow times for my work. I was considering skipping town this year, as New York can be pretty miserable. I think RED is going to be very good as a New Years resolution. Unfortunately, if it gets delayed again, I'm going to take a hit tax wise.

December 30th is a weird delivery date. It means people working through Christmas? That makes me have low expectations for that date. I don't want you to deliver on that date actually, I want you to go home and hang some stockings or light kinara candles or whatever.... what I'm really trying to say is a hard and fast date is better than an early date.

I noticed something a little while back, and that was a clip that Jim put up from a racetrack. It was noted that there was no LCD or EVF used. I'm either reading into that or that speaks volumes about the reality on the ground in "REDland" and reflects positively on them.

IBloom
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Ugg, funny but I had that happen to me :( I was selling my XL-1s on ebay and someone used Buy-it-Now and wanted me to ship to Lagos, Nigeria. Now I'm not an idiot, so I immediately contacted ebay, told this guy to screw off, etc., but what a pain in the butt. It ruined my auction so I had to repost days later, etc. Grrr.... SCREW Nigeria, sorry but what a corrupt country.
 
Sorry whats the number up to now? If I can get the March/April from now Im totally in.
 
Film Ylem said:
So, in light of where this camera is going to go, is it in my best interest to put in a reservation at this point? At this point, should I wait until production ramps to create a surplus? Or will the cameras always be produced on a made-to-order basis from reservation payments?

Thanks.
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Whats to hurt putting a res in now. its not like you have to put all the money
in now and you will hold a better place in line, giving you time to get familiar
with the camera.

If production of the cameras slows for any reason it will only benefit you to have a res, as far as I see it.
 
JonathanLB said:
Ugg, funny but I had that happen to me :( I was selling my XL-1s on ebay and someone used Buy-it-Now and wanted me to ship to Lagos, Nigeria. Now I'm not an idiot, so I immediately contacted ebay, told this guy to screw off, etc., but what a pain in the butt. It ruined my auction so I had to repost days later, etc. Grrr.... SCREW Nigeria, sorry but what a corrupt country.
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I'm not convinced that your auction was a scam. They make a lot of movies in Lagos. More by volume than anywhere else in the world, mostly on DV. I think you probably made the right choice, but I also think the guy on the other end was probably trying to make a movie.

Check out:
http://www.thisisnollywood.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Nigeria

IBloom
 
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