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Dalsa guys: Red seems fishy

arkham said:
... On a famous french speaking forum ("Le Repaire": www.repaire.net), I even got insulted ("gullible", "stupid", "naïve", "fool") for having made a reservation for a Red (which I 100% believe in)...
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Do me a favor, once you get your RedOne (which will surely happen) invite all of them to a free photoshoot and PLEASE, do send me a copy of their group shot, with eggs on their faces, :o smiling cheekily like a bunch of mamolas that they are. (LOL)
 
I would think that if RED were to fail there's going to be nobody that looses more than Jim, so I just don't know why people think it's some kind of scam.

That said, I'm proud to be drinking the RED koolaid and keeping my positive and hopeful attitude in tact.

We will have RED soon enough.

PS-Jim for your next big project could you create a safe, fast private jet that will compete with Lear, etc., but do it for about a $1million dollars? :)
 
arkham said:
Old sceptical Europe, without any sort of positive energy: no enthousiasm, no drive, no optimism, no dreams! It's almost like if I was living among zombies; fortunately, there are a few humans left over here: most of the people I know "in real-life" in fact. And of course, all the european people I meet over here :)
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As other Europeans have already attested to; that is so true that it's scary.

That's the major thing I hate living in Europe / Holland. Everybody just zombie's on. And the less you are different than the crowd the better. Ugh.

It's so good to be part of something revolutionary and different!
 
Elcurado, and other europeans

old Europe is, well, old. But better stop whining and act for a fast change.
Good to know that someone in Italy has reserved for the Red camera, since I am Italian too, and it could be in the future a tremendous addition to my research lab. So, it would be very intersting to have first hand information from early adopters.

Piero
 
PieroD said:
So, it would be very intersting to have first hand information from early adopters.

Piero
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Ok, touchè. Stop complaining...

I'm here, Piero, and I don't know how many other RED's are reserved from Italy (maybe Emanuel?).

So, if you are interested, we can share information about the camera and the workflow here in Italy.

Buon anno, Corrado.
 
Caro Corrado,

as a hobbyst, I myself, every now and then like to produce shorts. But, my main occupation is scientific research. Now, I know that with Red it is possible to get 720p@120 fps, and considering the quality of the image, this represents a very big achievement that lends promise in the Science Department. So, I'm very interested to know the workflow and the compatibility of the format with NLEs.

Buon anno anche a te

Piero
 
Ok,

see you next year, when my Red's arrives here in Italy...
 
Send me their names and I will add them to my "do not sell to list". :-)
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Thanks for your support Jim! I feel almost like if I was part of your family and you were my big brother :)

To Jim, Rob, Graham and all the rest of you guys: I wish you a great party tonight, for 2007 is gonna be a hellova GREAT year for all of us! Thank you so much to the Red team for their incredible work! Wish you all the very best for 2007!
 
Rob Lohman said:
That's the major thing I hate living in Europe / Holland. Everybody just zombie's on. And the less you are different than the crowd the better. Ugh.
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Not all dutch folks are sticking their heads in the sand. On the pic we can see a very early adopter of one of the prototypes of the Red One, presumably prins Bernhard of Holland. This film and photo fanatic (and good friend of JJ) is trying Red's outdoor high-contrast behaviour while on one of his wild-life trips to Afrika in 1973. Rumor has it that he actually developed the Mysterium Sensor and almost took it into the grave with him...

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arkham said:
Sometimes, I'm truly ashamed of being European... Old Europe... Old sceptical Europe, without any sort of positive energy: no enthousiasm, no drive, no optimism, no dreams! It's almost like if I was living among zombies; fortunately, there are a few humans left over here: most of the people I know "in real-life" in fact. And of course, all the european people I meet over here :)
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I see no reason to be ashamed of being European. Just because of a bunch of living-in-the-past people you cannot assume all of us are like that.
I know a lot of people here in Austria are very excited about the RED camera, our local filmequipment dealer told me that he is going to contact RED soon to get into business with them.
Most people here I spoke to, want this new camera to become true because it promises better quality and more possibilities. There is no reason to freak out - in the end it is all about business. RED is no religion, it is a tool that raises your chances to get your work done better.
 
arkham said:
Sometimes, I'm truly ashamed of being European... Old Europe... Old sceptical Europe, without any sort of positive energy: no enthousiasm, no drive, no optimism, no dreams! It's almost like if I was living among zombies; fortunately, there are a few humans left over here: most of the people I know "in real-life" in fact. And of course, all the european people I meet over here :)
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To be honest, this post lacks all the "positive energy", "enthousiasm", "drive", "optimism" or "dreams" that you refer to.

And you realize that the term "Old Europe" was coined by Donald Rumsfeld when the EU weren't getting all excited about joining the war in Iraq... do you? I don't even want to go there.

The scepticism that Red One occasionally runs into is not tied to any geographical area. Nothing to do with continents.

Or I must live in a different universe.

Let's get back to discussing the camera.
 
Barend Onneweer said:
To be honest, this post lacks all the "positive energy", "enthousiasm", "drive", "optimism" or "dreams" that you refer to.

And you realize that the term "Old Europe" was coined by Donald Rumsfeld when the EU weren't getting all excited about joining the war in Iraq... do you? I don't even want to go there.

The scepticism that Red One occasionally runs into is not tied to any geographical area. Nothing to do with continents.

Or I must live in a different universe.

Let's get back to discussing the camera.
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Here here.
 
arkham said:
I guess we'll see plenty of threads like these in the coming weeks, at least until the Red is finally shipping. On a famous french speaking forum ("Le Repaire": www.repaire.net), I even got insulted ("gullible", "stupid", "naïve", "fool") for having made a reservation for a Red (which I 100% believe in).
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Arkham is right, I've got insulted too on the same forum by the same person we are in the same boat, and I'm shure sceptics will change their mind really quickly and soonish than they think.
 
Barend Onneweer said:
To be honest, this post lacks all the "positive energy", "enthousiasm", "drive", "optimism" or "dreams" that you refer to.

And you realize that the term "Old Europe" was coined by Donald Rumsfeld when the EU weren't getting all excited about joining the war in Iraq... do you? I don't even want to go there.

The scepticism that Red One occasionally runs into is not tied to any geographical area. Nothing to do with continents.

Or I must live in a different universe.

Let's get back to discussing the camera.
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I'm glad you said that Barend -about the Rumsfeld qoute- I was loathe to mention it but you're right. For Arkham to generalize about a whole continent of people and claim they're lazy is lazy and narrow minded in itself. Considering the amount of different cultures & ideologies that exist in Europe I think he should get out more.

You only need go and read the cinematography forums to realise that skepticism is worldwide when it comes to RED and it is only from proof through progress that things will change.
 
Floris Liesker said:
Not all dutch folks are sticking their heads in the sand. On the pic we can see a very early adopter of one of the prototypes of the Red One, presumably prins Bernhard of Holland. This film and photo fanatic (and good friend of JJ) is trying Red's outdoor high-contrast behaviour while on one of his wild-life trips to Afrika in 1973. Rumor has it that he actually developed the Mysterium Sensor and almost took it into the grave with him...

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Nice compositing job. Didn't fool my 4 yr old son, though. He was first to spot the film camera beneath the plate with the Red-like image. Good try though~
 
Thanks Floris! :)
 
For Arkham to generalize about a whole continent of people and claim they're lazy is lazy and narrow minded in itself.
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You're absolutly right! That's why I never talked about some sort of "laziness", as you seem to claim I did. As to your "generalization" comment, I disagree, of course, since I clearly mentionned there were many many exceptions :) Basically, I just said I sometimes had the IMPRESSION many (NOT ALL: since I said all the people I personaly know and all the people I meet over here) europeans (myself included, probably... at least, sometimes) need a little more "drive", "enthousiasm" and "positive energy".

But these are nothing but impressions: not facts! As a matter of fact, I have been living quite a while in northern California (working as an engineer for a "very large internet startup", during the bubble-days) and thus, I think you can understand where I am coming from. Back then, I was surrounded by people who knew what these words --"think positive", "think different"-- really meant. Now, I'm back home, in rainy Belgium... spending a few minutes here and there arguing with bitter french people on an infamous forum. But let me tell you again: I spend most of my time working with great people (directors, producers, actors, musicians and other professional artists) coming from all over Europe... It's just that I have the impression I am very lucky to know many "positive minded people", for I have the impression these are rather the exception than the rule! If you don't know what I am talking about, if don't know why I dared to use the word "zombie" (which doesn't mean "lazy", BTW), I would be very pleased if you could come one day over Brussels (or over Paris, for that matter) and sit in a public transport for 5 minutes. Or better yet: try to talk about some sort of "non-Sony" video-camera on the "Repaire". I could give you many other exemples, but one thing I am willing to bet is that eventually, you will definitly understand where my impressions are coming from :)

But as a matter of fact, impressions are just impressions and you certainly don't have to call me "narrow minded" because of my impressions. Impressions are, by definition, highly subjective. You'd be right to call me "narrow minded" though if I claimed these were facts... :) It's as if I said "I don't really like the taste of oranges", and you'd reply me: "well, this is very narrow minded of you to say that oranges taste like s..t, since many oranges are delicious" :)
 
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