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Customizing your camera with build 3.2.x

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Trent Lillehaugen

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Build 3.2.x includes revamped PRESET and KEY MAPPING features. Some of the highlights are:
- More granular control over what properties go into a preset.
- New "Apply Preset: XXX" key action.
- New "Apply Look: XXX: key action.
- New "Show Dialog: XXX" key action.
- New Key Mapping "Wizard" Dialog that allows quick remapping of keys.

Combined, these features offer a powerful new way to customize the behavior of your camera.

The simplest example is to assign a specific ISO setting (or almost any other camera setting) to a button.

1. Set the ISO to the desired value (say 1000)
2. Create a preset named "ISO 1000" with just the ISO parameter included in the preset
3. Assign the action "Apply Preset: ISO 1000" to any key

By browsing through the available preset parameters, you see how easy it is to make "hot keys" bring up almost any camera setting or combination of settings

Examples:
Create a Modifier Key
Map a Key to Toggle or Cycle Through Different Settings
Bring up Dialog with Key Press

User Examples:
Map a Key to Cycle Through Exposure Check/Video Check/Off
Map a Key to Cycle Through Focus/Edge/Off
Use Motion/Stills Switch to Change Between Default Motion/Stills Settings
 
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Create a Modifier Key

Create a Modifier Key

Create a Modifier Key

Goal
Allow the Side Handle front rotary to control different parameters based on which modifier key is pressed (similar to how many DSLRs function)
For this example we will setup the front rotary to control:
  • The Aperture (normal)
  • The ISO (if the SIDE SSD user key 1 is pressed and held)
  • The Integration Time (if the SIDE SSD user key 2 is pressed and held)

Solution Description
Create the following presets:
  • Front Rotary - Aperture
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CCW -> Iris: Close
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CW -> Iris: Open
  • Front Rotary - ISO
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CCW -> ISO: Increase
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CW -> ISO: Decrease
  • Front Rotary - Int Time
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CCW -> Integration Time: Increase
    • Maps SH Rotary Front CW -> Integration Time: Decrease
Create the following key mappings:
  • S-SSD User 1 Press -> Apply Preset: Front Rotary - ISO
  • S-SSD User 1 Release -> Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Aperture
  • S-SSD User 2 Press -> Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Int Time
  • S-SSD User 2 Release -> Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Aperture
Optionally save the key mappings made above into another Preset to allow easy setup of this solution.


Solution Step-by-Step Instructions
  • Create three different camera presets: "Front Rotary - Aperture", "Front Rotary - ISO", "Front Rotary - Int Time"
    • Map the front rotary to control the aperture
      • Open the KEYS Dialog: SETTINGS->SETUP->KEYS
      • Rotate the Side Handle front rotary - two key events will be shown in the dialog: CW (clockwise) and CCW (counter clockwise)
      • Set the CCW action to Iris: Close
      • Set the CW action to Iris: Open
      • Exit the KEYS Dialog
    • Create the preset "Front Rotary - Aperture"
      • Open the PRESETS Dialog
      • Open the CREATE PRESET Dialog by hitting the CREATE... button
      • Name the preset "Front Rotary - Aperture"
      • Select the following parameters from the "KEY" tab and add them to the preset by hitting the --> button
        • Side Handle Rotary Front CCW
        • Side Handle Rotary Front CW
      • Create the preset by hitting the CREATE button
    • Repeat the previous steps for the next two camera presets using the ISO: Decrease/Increase and Integration Time: Decrease/Increase actions
  • Assign keys
    • Open the KEYS Dialog
    • Press the SIDE SSD user key 1
    • Set the PRESS action to Apply Preset: Front Rotary - ISO
    • Set the RELEASE action to Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Aperture
    • Press the SIDE SSD user key 2
    • Set the PRESS action to Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Int Time
    • Set the RELEASE action to Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Aperture
    • Optionally create a preset with the key 1 press/release and key 2 press/release events so you can store the compelte set of presets offline and recreate the setup easily.

Techniques Used
The essence of this solution is to dynamically remap the front rotary key by applying a preset on a key press (and release). Note that this technique could be expanded to remap more than just the front rotary control. For example, you could remap all the side handle keys and use the user keys 1 and 2 to toggle between them.
Furthermore, by Assigning both the 1 Release and 2 Release events to the same action (Apply Preset: Front Rotary - Aperture) we were able to create the concept of a default mapping for the front rotary that is temporarily overridden by pressing and holding wither the 1 or 2 keys.
 
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I like this ability to customize in such detail and options presets. However it is a lot of things to go through in the menus to set it all up. I think it would be cool if we were able to make all these settings and presets on the computer and then download that to the camera on the SSD:-)
 
So this means that I could make a preset looking like:

ISO 320/RedlogFilm/5000k

and toggle between that, and whatever settings I was at

OR

Will I have to save current settings first?

G
 
Gunleik Groven said:
So this means that I could make a preset looking like:

ISO 320/RedlogFilm/5000k

and toggle between that, and whatever settings I was at

OR

Will I have to save current settings first?

G
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You'd have to create two presets if you wanted to toggle between two different "looks". Applying a preset wouldn't automatically save your current settings to let you go back.

You could assign your two presets to two different buttons for quick access back and forth.

Or you could use the ability to remap the keys within the preset to create a "toggle" feature. You'd create two presets (A and B) which contains the look information you wanted along with reassigning the desired key to the OTHER preset. I'll post a detailed example showing this soon.
 
George Tsai said:
I like this ability to customize in such detail and options presets. However it is a lot of things to go through in the menus to set it all up. I think it would be cool if we were able to make all these settings and presets on the computer and then download that to the camera on the SSD:-)
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Agreed, an offline tool to help create the presets and key mappings would be a time saver. For now, make sure you export your created presets to an SSD and save them on your computer so you can quickly re-deploy them if need be.

Also, feel free to share your creations with others on the forum.
 
What I'd like was to have this "preset" replace "view RAW" in functionality. Just as a quick realitycheck, whenever I should need it.

I usually shoot the cam quite fkat anyways so I guess togling between this and ISO800/RG3/5000 would basically give me most of the info I want...

Good to be able to set these presets, though...
 
Gunleik Groven said:
What I'd like was to have this "preset" replace "view RAW" in functionality. Just as a quick realitycheck, whenever I should need it.

I usually shoot the cam quite fkat anyways so I guess togling between this and ISO800/RG3/5000 would basically give me most of the info I want...

Good to be able to set these presets, though...
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I like your idea. Hopefully we can come up with a cool way of incorporating it.
 
Is it possible to make two presets that just change resolution, framerate, redcode "compression". Then you could switch between slowmo and regular speed in a button push.

Wish build 3.0.7 had the revamped PRESET and KEY MAPPING features. I think i will wait for the 3.2.8 to come out of beta.
 
I just spent about a half hour playing with the new way of setting keys and such. I'm really impressed- All the things I liked about SLRs and all the things I like about Red's controls have met, fallen in love, and had kids.
While I agree a way to set these up from a computer would be killer, as it is it's a great system anyways.
 
very Nice
 
Very nice. Lots of possibilities here.

If in a future build you were able to add a function called "Apply Preset X and store current state to preset TEMP" that would allow toggling to a given setup without losing your current settings.

I suppose a workaround for now would be to manually store the current setup in a preset called CURRENT every time you changed anything, and have the release action of your toggle button be "Apply Preset: CURRENT"
 
Is there a way to assign control of focus distance to the rotary button on the side handle? Would be pretty awesome to pull focus using your thumb! (For Canon mount, of course)
 
Niko Pueringer said:
Is there a way to assign control of focus distance to the rotary button on the side handle? Would be pretty awesome to pull focus using your thumb! (For Canon mount, of course)
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Yes, there are key actions for that. I believe they are called "focus: near/far". At the moment the step size is fixed so you will need to play with it to see if it meets your needs.
 
Just did some key remapping with 3.2.8 and it's brilliant! Even the Stills-motion slider button is enabled now, so my thanks to everyone at RED!

I do have a few wishes for the future, though:
1) An option to edit or replace a preset easily. For when I just want to update one thing in my custom "all settings" preset.
2) On the Key Mapping "wizard" screen a note that tells what the currently chosen option does.
3) On the same screen maybe a way to choose what options you want to see. Being able to selectively hide things like navigation/playback/dialog options from the list would make finding whatever you're looking for quicker.
4) Two keymaps: one for playback and one for record and the option to automatically switch between them when switching between playback and record. I know I could map a button to essentially toggle between two maps, but then I lose a button that I could use for something else.

EDIT to add: Number 4 on my list should really be number one, since it's really the only one that I feel would be essential.
 
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Love the direction this is going

Love the direction this is going

Love the idea of a way to create mappings/presets off board.

Perhaps RCX-Pro could include a version of the key mapping wizard entry screen that takes advantage of the greater screen real estate to include things like explanatory notes, a flow chart review, etc.

RED's "computer with a lens" approach to making a modern D-cinema camera has presented a few challenges along the way, but as the system evolves we get more and more benefits from the programmability that enables. I look forward to the day we can push even more custom info into the metadata, particularly from scripty.

Cheers - #19
 
Jaakko Rinne said:
Just did some key remapping with 3.2.8 and it's brilliant! Even the Stills-motion slider button is enabled now, so my thanks to everyone at RED!

I do have a few wishes for the future, though:
1) An option to edit or replace a preset easily. For when I just want to update one thing in my custom "all settings" preset.
2) On the Key Mapping "wizard" screen a note that tells what the currently chosen option does.
3) On the same screen maybe a way to choose what options you want to see. Being able to selectively hide things like navigation/playback/dialog options from the list would make finding whatever you're looking for quicker.
4) Two keymaps: one for playback and one for record and the option to automatically switch between them when switching between playback and record. I know I could map a button to essentially toggle between two maps, but then I lose a button that I could use for something else.

EDIT to add: Number 4 on my list should really be number one, since it's really the only one that I feel would be essential.
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I like all your ideas. Speaking to number 4 we were thinking about adding the ability to assign a preset to certain camera events such as power up, start playback, start preview, etc. This should let you do some pretty cool things like keep separate record and playback key mappings.
 
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