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CoolDrives: Avoid

Chris Kenny

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So, last week we took delivery on an external SATA enclosure and controller card from CoolDrives. We installed the card in a G5, hooked up the enclosure, installed the drives, created a couple of striped disk sets, and started copying data to it.

Over the last week with this thing, we've had drives randomly unmounting, drives operating extremely slowly (under a meg a second), and freezes during large file copies. CoolDrives casually mentioned in response to the first set of such issues that the enclosure wasn't compatible with the drives we were using, which were common Seagate drives. The sales material made no mention of such incompatibilities, and in fact identified the enclosure as "Full SATA compatible".

After investing about 30 hours trying to get this thing to work, and trying three different kinds of drives, we asked for a refund. CoolDrives is trying to enforce a no-refund policy against a product that was falsely represented. And we're not interested in going back and forth with CoolDrives, having the product shipped back and forth (at our expense, of course), only to end up with storage we can't trust. Plus, some Google searches reveal that they've apparently done this to others (wish I'd done some research before ordering), and that other people have shipped back clearly defective products only to be told nothing is wrong and to have the products shipped back to them.

About five minutes after we requested the refund, we got a call from CoolDrives. During the course of the conversation, I was accused of being a scam artist and threatened with legal action if I disputed the charge. ("Do you know what we do to customers who do that?") The rep constantly talked over me, denied that the problem could be their product, and tried to claim the almost universal bad reviews of their company were the result of a just handful of 400K customers (which they can't possibly have).

Also, after telling me via e-mail that they knew of incompatibilities with some drives, the rep tried to deny this over the phone, claiming the problem must be shoddy or defective hard drives. (We've tried drives from Maxtor, Seagate and Western Digital, all of which work perfectly when not installed in the CoolDrives enclosure.)

Anyway, I am disputing the charge, and will be posting more about this here and on the Indie4K blog. The whole experience has been downright surreal.

If you're looking for low-cost external commodity storage, look as far away from CoolDrives as possible. And be aware that they also operate under about a dozen other names. (USBGear, SATAGear, etc.)
 
In my search for drives Cooldrives have always come up and I have read complaints about thier operation so I always avoided. Pay a little more and go with Firmtek. The people are great, solid apple support and solid SATA drive enclosures and cards. I do not work for them just love their stuff. Thanks for the post.
 
cool drives has known this for awhile on their ATA 4 drive ice box unit ...
i have 2 friends that each have the 4 drive Ice Box ATA unit ... they tried 4 -400gig seagates , then 3 seagates and even 1 seagate and they all had same problems you're having , .. even one 250 gig seagate/maxtor and same problems ..

i have the same unit .. i have not had problems ... i have 4 250gig maxtors ( non raid) ... i've had mine for 2 years .. so it's something in the newer units ??
 
scammers with dozens of domains

scammers with dozens of domains

I had the same problem with CoolDrives, and they made exactly the same BS excuses about a defective enclosure. In my case they claimed that the drive I was using took too much power, and that I needed to buy an optional power supply. When I returned the enclosure (asking only for an exchange), I included pictures of the specs on the drive and the power supply, showing they were well within range.

I didn't get any response, despite using an RMA they issued. Their RMA inquiry site is totally bogus, referring you to a non-working E-mail address. It also claimed that my CoolDrives-issued RMA didn't exist.

BOUNCE THE CHARGE off your credit card. I did, and they never responded to the credit-card company's inquiries. So I got my money back.

The problem is that CoolDrives is hard to avoid when searching for drive enclosures. On the one occasion that I somehow managed to E-mail them, the imbecile who responded bragged that they had "hundreds" of domain aliases, the better to scam you with.

You can read more about this sorry operation here:
http://www.epinions.com/content_325700849284

I ended up buying an Icy Dock elsewhere, and it has worked well. The trays are overpriced, and it does have the annoying external power brick. But it's reliable, unlike CoolDrives' crap.
 
Have you folks reported them to the ftc or other legal entities? Sounds like fraudulent business practice.
 
http://www.bbb.org/
or your local Attorney General's Office.

One call to your local attorney general can accomplish amazing things... for free too! I've gotten double refunds they were so anxious to refund my money.
 
Thanks Chris,

I was considering those enclosures and had not heard any bad news. This saves me some heartache - but I am sorry for yours.

Thanks for letting us know.

aloha,

Keith
 
I bought a 2 drive firewire 800 enclosure from Other World Computing, and its worked pretty darn well so far, and another editor in my studio bought one as well. Anyone else used them? We've had them for maybe 3 months, and no problems, with 2x 500gb maxtors stripped.

I'd like to use them for onsite backup in the raid 1 config, but I'd like to hear some more user experience.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/MirrorRAID/
 
I've been using an OWC the last month and have had no problems. I have a couple friends that have been using them exclusively for years and they swear by them.

i've also had bad luck with a cool drives enclosure.. they tried to tell me it was my fault as well.
 
I had one problem with OWC drive enclosure a while back:

My friend had two of them daisy chained together plugged into his macbook pro. Like a fool, he stood up and kicked out the firewire 800 cable, unplugging the 2nd drive (but not the first). He got the usual UNMOUNT! error, and turned off the drive, and plugged it in again.

It wouldn't mount on any computer. We called OWC and they told us to try diskwarrior to repair it, which he didnt do because it had only a few files on it, and they were all backed up. (Instead he just reformatted the drive with disk utility and called it a day).

Given that that is user error, i dont think its its OWC's fault really.
 
Drive me crazy

Drive me crazy

I have used ProMax enclosures/drives for 10 years and (cross my fingers) never had a drive go down.

LAFCPUG pimps CalDigit and a fellow editor I work with loves them.

Thanks for the heads up on Cool Drives and I hope you can put their feet to the fire without too much time investment - really appreciate you posting on this.
 
In my search for drives Cooldrives have always come up and I have read complaints about thier operation so I always avoided. Pay a little more and go with Firmtek. The people are great, solid apple support and solid SATA drive enclosures and cards. I do not work for them just love their stuff. Thanks for the post.

I totally agree with you fightordie. I've been using FirmTek products for around 9 months. Not only has the hardware functioned perfectly, but their customer service is second to a mere handful of companies in the world IMHO (one of them being RED of course). As an ADC member, I've got the software seeding program and when I wanted to use the drives while working in the WWDC Leopard build, I shot them an e-mail, and within 36 hours their support people and their head firmware engineer resolved my issues with new firmware and the beta of leopard-compatible drivers. Operation is just as flawless as ever.

I am not affiliated with them in any way other than being a very satisfied customer.
 
I certainly don't deny the problems people are describing in this thread, but I have to mention I bought an Icebox quad eSATA enclosure from Cooldrives last January and have had no problems with it. I'm using Samsung spinpoint (500GB) and Hitachi deskstar (250GB) drives in it. My only problem was they wouldn't ship it to Switzerland, so I found someone to buy it in the US and bring it back to me.

All the best to those suffering from bad products or service, it sucks.

Cheers,
Damien
 
LAFCPUG pimps CalDigit and a fellow editor I work with loves them.

Those boxes are niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

And the HDPro etc is a direct PCIe bridge - very cool but also weird and proprietary. Doesn't matter. They're quiet and superfast. Wish they had models that were bigger.

Anyone using the new (ish) ProMax FC array?
 
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