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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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I can't find the video right now either, but I can say that it didn't look at all like he unscrewed anything with the hex key, it look like he just gave it a quarter turn with a click, and the module was unlocked.
 
Stephen Strangways said:
I can't find the video right now either, but I can say that it didn't look at all like he unscrewed anything with the hex key, it look like he just gave it a quarter turn with a click, and the module was unlocked.
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1/4 turn with hex key is correct. We need these to lock on tight. As you stack modules, there is a bit of weight that needs to be supported. We also don't want a module to come of inadvertently.

Jim
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
Charles, tell me why one would need to switch modules so often.
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Well, like I said, it probably wouldn't be often. But from my experience with the cradle (the bolts of which are accessible), I predict it being a pain when you do need/want to make a change.

I do sincerely hope that I'm wrong, but I can't see myself being anything but peeved continually by this design...
 
Jannard said:
1/4 turn with hex key is correct. We need these to lock on tight. As you stack modules, there is a bit of weight that needs to be supported. We also don't want a module to come of inadvertently.

Jim
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Have you got any idea of how much are scarlet and epic gonna weight fully assemble?
And another thing... I remember looking at the cameras site and there was a release date there for the middle of this year for the s35 and end of the year for the ff35, these dates were changed, is there a new one?
 
Guys, less than a month and we'll know! To say it with the words of the new Scotty: "I like this ship! It's exciting!"
 
Montanha said:
Have you got any idea of how much are scarlet and epic gonna weight fully assemble?
And another thing... I remember looking at the cameras site and there was a release date there for the middle of this year for the s35 and end of the year for the ff35, these dates were changed, is there a new one?
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Later this month we will know more on those kind of logistics. :willy_nilly:
 
Jim got in there before me on the last one...

So, it is a cam, but one that you turn with a hex key? A lever of sorts would be strictly superior, as far as I can see. It could be a half circle that pivots about its centre, and which can be laid flat when finished adjusting it (similar to the inching knob on an SR2). Unobtrusive, super easy to adjust, requires no tools, allows for a flat bottom, difficult to accidentally turn... It could even have a cover if you're still worried about modules coming off accidentally.

And why the bottom? Isn't access just more difficult there? Top or side seems like the obvious choice...

I realize I'm just griping, as the thing is already designed, but I feel like letting it out.
 
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Could we wait with criticism until we've held it in our hands, please?

Just feels so wrong...
 
Felix Knöchel said:
Could we wait with criticism until we've held it in our hands, please?
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By then it'll be a little late to help RED fix potential problems. RED has repeatedly said they are all ears and want feedback. They'll take it or leave it as they see fit.

I don't know how likely it is that people will be swapping modules in the middle of the shooting day. Seems to me I'd pick my configuration and leave it that way. I suppose others may not.

I think a half turn no tool solution that is on top of the module makes sense. Maybe there needs to be two for safety. Then you could leave the camera mounted on a tripod head or cart and work on it. If you have to flip it over to work on it - well that seem kinda wrong. Now you've got to remove the EVF, LCD and potentially the rail system to get access to the bolt on the bottom. That's a lot of work.
 
Joel Kaye said:
By then it'll be a little late to help RED fix potential problems. RED has repeatedly said they are all ears and want feedback. They'll take it or leave it as they see fit.
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Nothing wrong with that. But the modules are designed. There will be no more changes to that series of cameras; and especially with little things like that I think: wait and see for yourself. It's not like they forgot to make a hole for the lensmount...

just my 2c...

(btw. I don't see modules changed a lot either. Why would you wanna do that?" It's not like you can change the output module on a RedOne mid-shoot.)
 
Steven Caesare said:
It's a latch MECHANISM, that is operated via a recessed hex-key "knob".

The mecanism is internal to the module, and grabs mating anchors form the module it's attaching to.
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Sounds like the whole thing is basically just a coffin lock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_lock

which means it will be very sturdy and easy to connect.

It seems to me that the only times you will really ever need to change modules while on set is when switching from tripod to handheld/stedicam and back again. In that case you will probably be stripping off the dovetail anyways, so it won't be hindering the removal of modules at all.
 
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Jeff Hitchcock said:
Sounds like the whole thing is basically just a coffin lock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_lock

which means it will be very sturdy and easy to connect.

It seems to me that the only times you will really ever need to change modules while on set is when switching from tripod to handheld/stedicam and back again. In that case you will probably be stripping off the dovetail anyways, so it won't be hindering the removal of modules at all.
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It's not a coffin lock (altho' earlier prototypes appeared to consider that design), and I think any concerns about it not being a lever, etc... are unfounded.

OK, I went and dug up the video. Here it is: http://www.film-tv-video.de/newsdetail.html?&uid=38195&no_cache=1. Jarred detaches a module at a little over a minute in. He also shows how modules would fit for attachment at about 2:15.


Check it out, looks slick and sturdy.

-sc
 
Steven Caesare said:
It's not a coffin lock (altho' earlier prototypes appeared to consider that design), and I think any concerns about it not being a lever, etc... are unfounded.

OK, I went and dug up the video. Here it is: http://www.film-tv-video.de/newsdetail.html?&uid=38195&no_cache=1. Jarred detaches a module at a little over a minute in. He also shows how modules would fit for attachment at about 2:15.


Check it out, looks slick and sturdy.

-sc
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Looks really slick. And the pictures on that site are great, too!
 
This should allow someone to build a nice CHEAP underwater housing (shallow) for a cut down scarlet or epic. It can be technically a lot less complex coz the control of the camera can be wireless and nothing inside the box needs to interface with knobs on the outside.
 
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