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Congratulations to Austria!

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We have a vibrant and atice Austrian membership in Reduser, so, for whatever is worth, congratulations to you all on Austria winning Best Foreign film at the Oscars last night. I don't know how goof the film actually is, haven't seen it yet, but for a small country that gave us luminaries like Preminger, this sure is well deserved. Hopefully your next entrant will be shot on RED :-)
 
Yeah, let's not forget Ahnogd, one of the true luminaries of world cinema :tongue: Just kidding, I am, as much as one can be, an Arnold fan...
 
Hey Sanjin,

The trailer for the film looks outstanding, great cinematography, I've rented it and will be getting it in a couple of weeks. Just out of curiosity, any idea more or less what the budget of a film like this was in a country like Austria? Production value looks really high, yet I know that anything over 5 million is almost non existant in Austria. Any ideas about numbers?
 
It says nothing good or bad about the film itself, but foreign "Holocaust" movies, as well as a lot of documentaries on the same subject, invariably win the Oscar. The average Academy member is probably pushing 80 by this point. Whatever their religion, they love the self-congratulatory middle-brow stuff. A feel-good concentration camp drama fits the bill perfectly.

On top of that, the best foreign language films of the year never even get nominated. The whole category is a farce.
 
Congrats to Austria.

Britain had a good night, too.
 
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Oscars are farce or not I would not discuss it here.

But surely that award has enormous impact and influence to (still) fight a Nazi feeeling in Austria and Germany too.

Also it's a good propaganda in a fight against all other types of Super National Ideologies that are still exists in Europe and also on the other continents.

Film was always a sort of propaganda from its beginning(s).

Remember Russian Avantgarde films by Eisenstein, Pudovkin, Dovzenko, and Lenny Riefenstahl during Hitler's Nazi propaganda.

And what about ol' good Hollywood?

Is it also a sort of propaganda?

Of course , it is.

But back to the Austrian topic here read this lines from director Stefan Ruzowitzky interview:

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Hans von Sonntag said:
Seems like a Third Reich story is the way to go, if you come from a German speaking country...

My congratulations to the Austrian film community,

Hans (who is half Austrian)
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"The Third Reich" stories won many Oscars...
 
All award ceremonies, to some extent, are a farce, and the Oscars, being the bigggest and most glamorous one in the world, is of course, no exception. Unnaceptable oversights happen every year, but it truly is as much the fault of the Academy as it is that of those in charge of pushing and promoting the films, whichever ones of those films can actually afford to be promoted. Persepolis should have been nominated in the best foreign film category, not just in the animated one, and the gut wrenching film (forgot the name now) about the teenage girl fighting with the notion of an abortion in comunnist eastern Europe should have been there too. It wasn't. But the academy surely has rewarded many daring, spectacular works as well. The balance continually tilts both ways.

As for "third reich" films being "sure bets", well, the Third Reich is responsible for the largest, most dramatic and profound event EVER in human history, I can't see how only 60 years later there would not be a whole cadre of film makers feeling the responsibility to make stories about it. I am, as a matter of fact, in pre-production for a feature related to, you guessed it, Nazi Germany and WW2. So hey, more power to those with the sensibility to "tone down" a Holocaust story just to make digestible to today's largely ignorant and self absorbed audiences. Those movies still feel more resonant than the forceful, down-your-throat "works" of the Michael Moore's of the world. So congrats Austria!
 
Rudi Herbert said:
All award ceremonies, to some extent, are a farce, and the Oscars, being the bigggest and most glamorous one in the world, is of course, no exception. Unnaceptable oversights happen every year, but it truly is as much the fault of the Academy as it is that of those in charge of pushing and promoting the films, whichever ones of those films can actually afford to be promoted. Persepolis should have been nominated in the best foreign film category, not just in the animated one, and the gut wrenching film (forgot the name now) about the teenage girl fighting with the notion of an abortion in comunnist eastern Europe should have been there too. It wasn't. But the academy surely has rewarded many daring, spectacular works as well. The balance continually tilts both ways.

As for "third reich" films being "sure bets", well, the Third Reich is responsible for the largest, most dramatic and profound event EVER in human history, I can't see how only 60 years later there would not be a whole cadre of film makers feeling the responsibility to make stories about it. I am, as a matter of fact, in pre-production for a feature related to, you guessed it, Nazi Germany and WW2. So hey, more power to those with the sensibility to "tone down" a Holocaust story just to make digestible to today's largely ignorant and self absorbed audiences. Those movies still feel more resonant than the forceful, down-your-throat "works" of the Michael Moore's of the world. So congrats Austria!
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True. It is hard to say which film is "the best of the best". At some level there simply are quite a few movies which are excellent in different ways, so "Best Film" or "Best Whatever" is a bit relative thing. On the other hand - it must be a cool thing to win an Oscar :).

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About the Third Reich, this is one of the periods in history, which I find most perplexing. How and why all that was possible and actually happened just 60 years ago?

I've waded through the volumes of W. Churchill's memoirs. Being a brilliant man he managed to insert quite a lot "between the lines". I'm looking forward to re-reading them some time.

In regard of story telling, this period gives you all the ingredients of a great story, according to the "gurus". It's packed with all kinds of interweaving and bitter conflicts and therefore - packed wih dramatic potential. All conceivable values, including life itself, are at stake. It's global, etc.

I can see WWII stories owning the stage for at least 50-100 more years in the future.
 
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