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Configuring a lightweight Red camera

Jeff Kilgroe said:
I prefer the EVF when running with the camera on my shoulder and I like to mount the EVF via ET's EVF mount to the front of the Mantis rig using one of their short 3/4" risers. And the Origo combined with the Mantis is a wonderful thing.
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I have the same setup except I mounted a V-Dock on the back of the Mantis shoulder pad to hold the Drive. Helps lower the cog.

I'm also interested in how you have the Drive on your hip. It would be nice to get more weight off the camera, and I already have a 6-foot Drive cable.
 
Try this setup. I haven't weighed it but its not bad. What I would do though is go for the RED HD monitor. With a winter coat on you don't need a shoulder pad under the camera.
 
I have the action products raid rack. It is absolutely a must have! We bought 2, use only 1 and have had zero drop frames!!!!
 
Hey 1Dog

Nice set up. Tell us about that double handle rig? Lot of folks asking me about something like that.
 
its Cavision setup,
I had the same one untill it snapped in half from standard use.
I think they need to rethink their cheap materials for construction.
 
Douglas Underdahl said:
Hey 1Dog

Nice set up. Tell us about that double handle rig? Lot of folks asking me about something like that.
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Hey Douglas,

Do you have a solution like that but with RED handles adapted to a 15mm system? I remember you posted a while back on it. best
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I think the trick is to get an adapter that goes between the RED 15mm adapter and the RED handles. But Filmuloid may have a more straightforward solution with their handle that clamps right to the rods. You just twist it to loosen, slide it fore or aft, then tighten it at whatever angle you like, all with one hand while the camera is still on your shoulder. At least I think it will work this way, which would be great.
 
Longvalley Rod System awesome, but RR matte box poor fit

Longvalley Rod System awesome, but RR matte box poor fit

Per the above query, I've got Doug's lightweight 15mm rod setup (and killer handle system) on my R1. I also have the redrock mb - it fiits poorly at best. This is not Doug's fault - its that the redrock unit appears to ignore the 15mm lightweight spec, even though you can buy a 15mm lightweight arm for it. I can get the MB on, of coruse, byt the bottom edge hits the rod ends - adjusting the vertical as far up as it will go on the redrock arm/mate plate gets you almost clear of the rods - you can "force" the bottom of the MB over the rods, but its dodgy.

As for lightweight in general, cannot say enough about longvalley/Doug's handle and drive mount plate combo - I've been using this to lighten up the rig for backcountry skiing where we're hauling in everything miles on skis. Along with the ET mount, we've got a very effective, light rig that works well for us.
 
6 foot drive cable, battery belt clip carbon rods side handles

6 foot drive cable, battery belt clip carbon rods side handles

been doing this for about a year...dp's love it...

DP Scott duncan seen here with the rig for a pbr shoot.

enjoy

dino georgopoulos
 
kaplooee, yeah your right, it is not the strongest looking system for handles. When you say yours snapped in half where did it break? On one of the ends where the top and bottom come together.

As far as fitting accessories on the rods I have the new light weight Arri matte box and follow focus and they fit beautifully.

Filmuloid has an good idea. If you put pop a pair of bike hand grips on them so you would have something for your hand to bump up against that would be great.

For price and stability the Moose Bars sound like a definite next option. Threads about them here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11135
and here
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21128

I have to ask myself though, what is the breaking point of the Cavision handles, vs the the 4 screws that hold the light weight rod setup to the camera. Doug can clarify this for us, I am sure that the screws are a special alloy.

Whatever the answer I am going to use my handles only for balancing the camera on my shoulder and not for lifting it off of my shoulder, ( which I find is tempting to do). This is not to say the the Cavision handles couldn't be built better, but that I will take a moment and examine them for hairline cracks between jobs thats for sure. Thanks again kaplooee for the heads up.
 
Douglas as far as your rubber shock mounted plate for the Red Raid drive, well I did a test on the winter roads around my city here. The side streets don't get a lot of attention through out the winter so they become very rough. Did a 3 min test with the camera sitting on a Cine Saddle which sat on the car seat. No dropped frames, I was impressed. Testing before any kind of shoot though is a must due to the severity/frequency of the bumps/vibration. I like what it's done so far though.
 
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