Confessions...

[Lachlan Ward]

Hi Jim!

You remind me of James T. Kirk. You both are driven and definitely too hard on yourselves!!

And he gets it off with hot alien birds whilst making the human race look good.

Thanks Jim, I do believe that what you and the Red guys have done is quiet the feet. I also believe that we will see a whole new wave of film making because of this. A global Nouvelle Vague. I know its definitely going to spark some serious film making here. Viva la revolution VIVA LA RED. How fitting it is that Soderbergh's first films on Red is about one of the greatest revolutionaries of the 20th century.

Keep up the superior work Jim & Red Team:weight_lift: . Behind you all the way.

 

[Gregory Leno]

We are struggling with lots of things. And the "we are only in this two years" only goes so far.

I keep remembering your tombstone engraving...

"Most things in life are easy to understand, difficult to execute"
or something to that effect.

It helps keep my expectations in line with reality.
I don't think we have any idea how difficult it is to do what you've already accomplished.

Perfection is a process not an end.

Thanks for the honesty and take a deep breath. We'll be fine.

Greg

 

[Vern Nobles Jr.]

change

change

Remember the only constant in film is change and we live in an imperfect
world. If RED was perfect it would not have a place in
this world.

 

[Kyle Mallory]

Jim. F--- You! I don't care how much you talk trash about this camera.. I AIN'T LEAVING! I put down money on a a RED ONE, and I'm not gonna shut up about it, Linux, or anything else relating to it, until I have it in my hands... and probably not even then. So stop trying to convince me to give it back! You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands!

</sarcasm> Seriously though, that was an awesome post. I'd tell you all about it, but everyone else already did. Honestly, I think I LOVE YOU MAN!

Kyle

 

[Casey Green]

It's been an incredible ride so far, but just imagine where things will be in a year or two.

"we ain't seen nothin' yet".

 

[M Hsu]

very inspiring words Jim. I love what you're doing. I love it so much, I bet $20,000 dollars that RED one will be a great camera. I wired it to you last week actually...

 

[Elizabeth]

Perfection is a never-ending process.

Any person or project is born into POTENTIAL PERFECTION and then BECOMES more and more excellent through our passion and commitment to the process.

I think that "perfect" is the light at the end of an ever-receding hall of mirrors. It is only by aiming for that light of perfection as our destination do we then achieve a degree of excellence. However, I am not sure that complete PERFECTION is ever really achieved ... only desired.

And this is enough for me to believe in it.

To paraphrase the immortal words of the wise Yoda:

"There is no try, only do.”

And from the outpouring of support from the RED community in response to your confession (for you have formed a dynamic community) the overwhelming opinion seems to be that you and your team are DOING remarkable things, and doing them with style and integrity ... complete “excellence” will be achieved as you continue to persevere. Your character will not allow anything less.

Almost more importantly, it also seems that as a result of this passion for your own dreams, you have inspired an incredible number of people like Nathan and Ketch (and myself included) to reach beyond their own perceived limitation to manifest some very wonderful dreams. Keep it up!

Bravo and thank you.

 

[galexander]

Hmm, whatever the Red marketing strategy is, the technological lead in getting 4k of data off the sensor at 24fps and greater is rapidly vanishing.
Now you can buy a Basler A400 series now starting at $10k AUS, camera link, 4 megapixels, 24 to 96 fps or the pilot series which is 1920 x 1084 at 32fps over GiGe. No these aren't ready for movie production and don't have the hooks to link in to a standard work flow, but it really wouldn't take much.

Moore's law still holds in six months the gap closes, I wouldn't be surprised if the big boys, Sony, Panasonic already have products just waiting to compete but there's no need to bring them to market at the moment to drive down the prices of their current overinflated products.

IMHO suggest do whatever it takes, break some balls, call in some production or software "gunslingers" and get to market now before they have a chance to react. They big boys are slow, but they have deep pockets with lots of hard-core, technical R&D and production man hours they can throw at a project in a short amount of time. Small companies can maybe throw 400 to 600 man hours a week at a project, they can throw thousands of man hours with full up fab and machine shops in a week.

 

[Rick Darge]

F the Big Boys. My $ is on Red.

 

[Jason Ing]

They big boys are slow, but they have deep pockets with lots of hard-core, technical R&D and production man hours they can throw at a project in a short amount of time.

But Red has the secret weapon, the proverbial "ace up their sleeve", that the big boys don't.

 

[Jason Ing]

Moore's law?

It took more than the inescapable marching of technology to create the revolution and phenomenon of "RED".

 

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

Moore's law still holds in six months the gap closes, I wouldn't be surprised if the big boys, Sony, Panasonic already have products just waiting to compete but there's no need to bring them to market at the moment to drive down the prices of their current overinflated products.

By then RED will be 10 000+ units sold and halfway to a 70mm RED TWO.

What's that?

10 000 x 30-50 k $ = Oh, yeah!

And let's not forget Scarlet. That l'il bitch can pick a lot of big-boy pockets.

Those REDheads...

EDIT: Oops, not by six months, but I don't believe that the big boys will release their 4K competitors that soon.

 

[John Tissavary]

I read that review by that dp guy over at that rather well known mailing list (which I really love, btw....), and have to say I thought it was absolute bollocks.

Yeah there can be a little excessive exuberance over here at times; the leap to Red requires very little faith - this camera kicks ass and is completely useable in production. Is it wise to have a back-up body? Yes. Is it wise to rent from someone that knows the Red intimately and can support the production? F*&# yeah!

We shot our commercial with much earlier build of firmware that definitely had more (different?) limitations & bugs than the current version, and it was one of the best projects I've had the pleasure to be involved with, no small thanks to Red, Evin, Brook, and Sam D.

No doubt in my mind about the camera, and we're planning Red for all our upcoming shoots.

cheers,
jt

 

[galexander]

But Red has the secret weapon, the proverbial "ace up their sleeve", that the big boys don't.

which is.... give me a break if you don't understand the technology, don't try to "pull rabbit out of the hat"

 

[galexander]

Moore's law?

It took more than the inescapable marching of technology to create the revolution and phenomenon of "RED".

yes Moore's law... www.intel.com

without the technology of the high speed data transfer off the 4k chip, what do you have then?

 

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

I read that review by that dp guy over at that rather well known mailing list (which I really love, btw....), and have to say I thought it was absolute bollocks.

Yeah there can be a little excessive exuberance over here at times; the leap to Red requires very little faith - this camera kicks ass and is completely useable in production. Is it wise to have a back-up body? Yes. Is it wise to rent from someone that knows the Red intimately and can support the production? F*&# yeah!

We shot our commercial with much earlier build of firmware that definitely had more (different?) limitations & bugs than the current version, and it was one of the best projects I've had the pleasure to be involved with, no small thanks to Red, Evin, Brook, and Sam D.

No doubt in my mind about the camera, and we're planning Red for all our upcoming shoots.

cheers,
jt

Link? I'm not that familiar with the CML.

 

[galexander]

I read that review by that dp guy over at that rather well known mailing list (which I really love, btw....), and have to say I thought it was absolute bollocks.

Yeah there can be a little excessive exuberance over here at times; the leap to Red requires very little faith

leap of faith..??? wtf? there's no deity involved. it's technology and the application thereof. when you buy hardware from Basler, Kodak, JAI, Dalsa, they work, bullet proof, real-time, all the time, period.

- this camera kicks ass and is completely useable in production. Is it wise to have a back-up body? Yes. Is it wise to rent from someone that knows the Red intimately and can support the production? F*&# yeah!

cheers,
jt

now you've just more than doubled the cost of a typical production. people like myself who want to do independent films, can't afford to have two housings, a dedicated mini-fridge raid array, etc. this aristocratic approach of throwing more money at a problem just because you can is not something the financially limited can do.

 

[galexander]

By then RED will be 10 000+ units sold and halfway to a 70mm RED TWO.

seriously doubt that there is enough fab houses on the planet that could meet that number in a six month time frame.

And let's not forget Scarlet. That l'il bitch can pick a lot of big-boy pockets.

so show some specifications for Scalet, google or wiki "vaporware"

Red is still trying to figure out what the marketing audience is. go check out the recent thread of like 5 things you want scarlet to have. i've already put in my .02

EDIT: Oops, not by six months, but I don't believe that the big boys will release their 4K competitors that soon.

if the Big Boys, see a serious threat after NAB, they will have to, they need to protect their market share. that relatively new Sony CEO, seems to be just itching at a chance to make an impact. i wouldn't be surprised if one of them has indirectly benefited from the break-in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_Digital_Camera_Company

 

[Jason Ing]

yes Moore's law... www.intel.com

without the technology of the high speed data transfer off the 4k chip, what do you have then?

It says a lot that you have to ask that question and don't know the answer. :clown2:

And, although I was having fun with calling it a secret, etc., there's no "rabbit". There really is a reason Red has been successful that goes beyond technology (of course, it's crucial) but so are a lot of other elements that will keep them at the forefront of the pack (even after your gap closes. Oh no! Watch out! lol!)

Considering your tone, I'll let you figure it out. Jim and the Red Team already have. But then again, that's why you're not running the company. Leave the business to the smart guys like Jim & Company and try focusing back on your "occupation" of "being human". lol. :w00t:

 

[galexander]

It says a lot that you have to ask that question and don't know the answer. :clown2:

but i DO know the answer too bad you don't.... not even google can save you now. when you can explain what an MTF curve is, why it's useful, what does the timing looking like to get an image off the array, the physics behind it, what is the latency involved with the shift and add process? why do you want to add then shift? or shift then add? how many DN's are there in the dark current? ... then your otherwise useless, acinine and truly laughable comments might be taken as something more than a joke. i can answer all of these questions.

And, although I was having fun with calling it a secret, etc., there's no "rabbit". There really is a reason Red has been successful that goes beyond technology (of course, it's crucial) but so are a lot of other elements that will keep them at the forefront of the pack (even after your gap closes. Oh no! Watch out! lol!)

you have no clue at all? how has Red been successful at this point? profit? don't see that? in what manner whatsoever, has this venture been profitable by ANY benchmark. if you ask the boss, he would probably tell you that as of right now, it has NOT. he would probably say it has been a long, hard, bone shattering road. i get the impression it is NOT done for money.

you spout nothing but metaphors and ennuendos that are nothing more than meaningless dribble, while very entertaining and funny as hell. you've missed the point entirely. there is nothing wrong with admitting your ignorant of something. it's the fool who doesn't.

Considering your tone, I'll let you figure it out. Jim and the Red Team already have. But then again, that's why you're not running the company. Leave the business to the smart guys like Jim & Company and try focusing back on your "occupation" of "being human". lol. :w00t:

that's the point, they have not figured it out, if they had this would be on the market in full production as we speak. if you're lucky, when you 'surprise' the market with a product, you'll get a quarter maybe two before the competition can, will or choose to react.

the tone, like life is whatever you make of it. i choose to be as positive as i can be and help out as many people possible. if the truth doesn't match what you see in the mirror, than get a new mirror or accept the truth.

if you choose to take the tone in that manner, that is a reflection of your own self worth and view of the world. don't spout your negatively and bullshit my way, life is too wonderful to deal with people like you.

wow, you are really the unelightened and uninspiring, blind, leading the blind.

i'm also surprised that you know how to use a latin dictionary, see learn something new every day.