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david berez

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Hello,

I'm looking for a very reputable, very experienced domestic drone equipped DP for several weeks of shooting over the next several months. Would prefer that the footage actually be DSLR (go figure). Looking for the most reputable and experienced . . . .

Any one have any companies that they would recommend?

Thanks.

David
 
Ahh no, it's not illegal, it's probably the fastest growing segment in the cinematography biz. Avean Media are the main players, we just worked with them on two TV shows and a movie so far in Feb. They have offices in Hollywood and Austin and work worldwide.

here's some footage from last week....

 
Have to chime in the main players would be my buddies at Snaproll who Ive worked with before and they arent just people on the bandwagon.
They are pilots 1st who have custom Heli's (not just hobby octocopters) and equipment most guys can not buy commercially.

Check the info http://snaprollmedia.com/
 
yea, I wouldn't say the guys at Avean Media just jumped on the band wagon as they've been doing it for over 10 years and developed the stabilized heads that everybody else is using. They also are the only guys who are using and beta testing the Cineron, which is the only stabilized head designed for the Epic/Scarlet.

 
Snoop shoot

Snoop shoot

We are local and our copters are custom built for epics and Scarlett's dslr is not a problem. I can send you footage from our copter or come give you a demo. Here's a shot of our copter with a scarlet shooting a Snoop dog video last Thursday.
 

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i'm aware there are businesses that offer these services but i'm a little confused by this:

http://photographyforrealestate.net...says-us-airspace-is-closed-to-all-commercial/

and i ask partly because i've just finished building a DJI Phantom rig with carbon fiber gimbal for a gopro to get into this stuff, and my understanding was that i can film all day for fun, but that shooting for any commercial purposes violates FAA guidelines (nebulous as that term may be) and could result in, well, complications.

i've read arguments that are pretty compelling on both sides, and i'm guessing that the general consensus is that it's not enforced so, you know... sheep to the wind.

just curious.
 
I have worked with the guys at Snap Roll Media for a few years now and they are doing some great work all around the world. They have several different helicopters depending on the particular shot need. We have even flown them indoors. They're located in Franklin, TN, near Nashville. You may have seen some of their footage in the ski movie, "The Art Of Flight".

They've recently been working in tandem with Brain Farm in Jackson, WY and one of their latest projects is a joint venture with Scheibel of Austria. They had this bad boy setup featured at NAB last year.

For their demo reel, which includes some of our footage, see here.
 
chris morgan said:
i'm aware there are businesses that offer these services but i'm a little confused by this:

http://photographyforrealestate.net...says-us-airspace-is-closed-to-all-commercial/

and i ask partly because i've just finished building a DJI Phantom rig with carbon fiber gimbal for a gopro to get into this stuff, and my understanding was that i can film all day for fun, but that shooting for any commercial purposes violates FAA guidelines (nebulous as that term may be) and could result in, well, complications.

i've read arguments that are pretty compelling on both sides, and i'm guessing that the general consensus is that it's not enforced so, you know... sheep to the wind.

just curious.
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Well when a member of the public is seriously injured or killed, I think you will find out how serious a matter this is, especially as there will be no insurance coverage.
 
Really, it is ILLEGAL in US Airspace!!!

Really, it is ILLEGAL in US Airspace!!!

Under the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)'s current policy, no one can operate an unmanned aircraft in the National Airspace System without specific authority.* Operators who wish to fly an unmanned aircraft for civil use must obtain an FAA experimental airworthiness certificate, which will not be issued to an unmanned aircraft used for compensation or hire. Although the FAA allows hobbyists to fly model airplanes for recreational purposes under specific guidelines, that authority does not extend to operators flying unmanned aircraft for business purposes. More information is available from the U.S. Department of Transportation’s*Notice on Unmanned Aircraft Operations*and the*FAA's policy.*


Never mind the numerous threads that have addressed this issue, check some of these links:

http://www.skycamusa.com/legal.shtml

http://photographyforrealestate.net...says-us-airspace-is-closed-to-all-commercial/

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/warning-from-the-lapd-do-not-use-uavs-for-commercial-use

http://mi6films.com/2011/rc-helicop...rc-helicopter-flight-in-the-usa-airspace/687/

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/commercial-drones-a-dogfight-at-the-faa-02092012.html

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/am...e-my-model-aircraft-to-do-aerial-photography/
 
ok... cool.

not sure why everyone is getting attitude here. i've read piles of threads, and i'm pretty clear on what the regulations are.

i'm not planning on crashing anything into anyone's person or property, just curious as to how people in this particular thread offering this service are operating considering these facts.
 
Brian F Kobylarz said:
Under the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)'s current policy, no one can operate an unmanned aircraft in the National Airspace System without specific authority.* Operators who wish to fly an unmanned aircraft for civil use must obtain an FAA experimental airworthiness certificate, which will not be issued to an unmanned aircraft used for compensation or hire. Although the FAA allows hobbyists to fly model airplanes for recreational purposes under specific guidelines, that authority does not extend to operators flying unmanned aircraft for business purposes. More information is available from the U.S. Department of Transportation’s*Notice on Unmanned Aircraft Operations*and the*FAA's policy.*


Never mind the numerous threads that have addressed this issue, check some of these links:

http://www.skycamusa.com/legal.shtml

http://photographyforrealestate.net...says-us-airspace-is-closed-to-all-commercial/

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/warning-from-the-lapd-do-not-use-uavs-for-commercial-use

http://mi6films.com/2011/rc-helicop...rc-helicopter-flight-in-the-usa-airspace/687/

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/commercial-drones-a-dogfight-at-the-faa-02092012.html

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/am...e-my-model-aircraft-to-do-aerial-photography/
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Everybody is doing it anyway. The MPAA is actually lobbying the FAA right now ... so ... it shouldn't be long before we all have an official pass :)

http://www.dvice.com/2013-1-29/hollywood-lobbies-faa-allow-use-drones-shoot-movies
 
Chris,

It is not attitude - just trying to ensure that our community presents accurate information to it's members.

Those people that have not been caught yet are running a risk. i am uncomfortable that others are spreading information that is incorrect.
That type of false information can cost someone their business - something I'm sure that no one wants to see happen.

A web search will locate the pertinent FAA documents that cover this subject.
I have (5) of them in my files, unfortunately, the maximum PDF attachment size on this thread is too small to provide them here.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
Everybody is doing it anyway. The MPAA is actually lobbying the FAA right now ... so ... it shouldn't be long before we all have an official pass :)

http://www.dvice.com/2013-1-29/hollywood-lobbies-faa-allow-use-drones-shoot-movies
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Mark,

Companies have been shut down - detailed some of those in prior threads.

With sequestration around the corner, the funds to advance the schedule congress has given the FAA to study / resolve the issue is questionable.

"Everyone doing it" is not an argument the courts will buy in to when it causes loss of life or damage...
 
Brian F Kobylarz said:
Mark,

Companies have been shut down - detailed some of those in prior threads.

With sequestration around the corner, the funds to advance the schedule congress has given the FAA to study / resole the issue is questionable.

"Everyone doing it" is not an argument the courts will buy in to when it causes loss of life or damage...
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I'm not saying I condone it. I'm just saying that I expect the law to change - and meantime - LOTS of people are operating them - including folks on network series shooting in NYC - not saying they should be doing it - I'm just saying it IS happening.
 
Radek lech said:
We are local and our copters are custom built for epics and Scarlett's dslr is not a problem. I can send you footage from our copter or come give you a demo. Here's a shot of our copter with a scarlet shooting a Snoop dog video last Thursday.
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I can vouch for Radek and Patrick. Work with these guys a lot. Call these guys for a demo and u won't regret it.
 
brian wasn't really referring to you specifically in the attitude post, just felt a little hostile in here in general.

the ensuing discussion here is exactly what i was initially trying to prompt, and i had a feeling people were kinda just "doing it anyway" and even came across an instance where someone claimed an FAA employee told them to do just that. which seems to make sense as i doubt anyone has the resources to be policing productions for shots that look "drone-y".

still, good info to have. and supposedly regulation or licensing of some kind is incoming, and hopefully will be well-thought-out.

government.
 
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