dear friends, a few issues im dealing with in my workflow, maybe you can give me some advice
1) Color Space and Gamma Space in Source Settings
* im editing in premiere , then opening the red project in after effects for reframing and panning, then i will export to DPX or TIFF, in order to then colour correct in color or da vinci or others;
my question is, in in the source settings of the Red Footage , which color space and gamma space should i choose? im quite confused, some places talk about choosing 709, in other places i see the redspace in both, i understand it may depend on the final destination,
in my case initially i will export to 2K digital and also 1080p HD and soon after i may pass the 2K to 35mm film, so what should i choose for the color space and gamma space, before i export my TIFFs or DPX to bring them to Da Vinci or Color for final color correction? taking into account that the main color correction wont be done in premiere or AE, will be done later in Color or Da Vinci, therefore do you recommend me to leave things pretty neutral in premiere and AE? and which settings would that be in Color Space and Gamma space in source settings?
2) ratios , 1:2 vs 1:2.20
in the specific case of my science fiction film im trying to decide between a ratio of 1:2 which looks very nice, and a ratio of 1:2.20 which looks even more panoramic and also very nice, 2:35 or 2:39 are too much in my case as i lose too much information vertically, so im trying to decide between 1:2 and 1:2.20, the fact is that i prefer 2:20 but my question is, i see that 1:2 is used by a lot of people, but i dont find anywhere people using 2:20, may i have problems in future if i use a ratio such as 2:20? in the case of conversion to 35mm, or bluray discs or others?
3)Reframing, zooming and Panning
My film is shot in 4K 16:9 and output will be 2K 1:2 or 1:2.20,
i intend to do quite a lot of reframing, zooming and panning taking advantage of the 4K within a 2K window, initially i was doing this in premiere, but then i read that in premiere because its not fully in 32 bits , when doing resizings some quality may be lost unless you do the editing in 4K at all times,
so then i loaded the premiere project in after effects which works great and i realize i can now in after effects do pannings, zooming and reframings in 32 bits and at the same time do all effects i need in after effect without having to go back to premiere (as the editing is finished). My question is, as after effects is 32 bits all the time (if i select it in the project settings), that means that if my final output is 2K i can work in a 2K sequence in AE and do reframing and all there without losing quality?
or do i have to work at all times in 4K if i do zoomings, pannings, reframings, in order not to lose quality?
4) AE effects in 32 bits or 16 bits
the adobe videos recommend to work in 32 bits in After effects with the Red footage, however in my case for example i want to use filters such as TimeWarp to create slow motion, and in 32 bits AE says that timewarp is not ready for 32 bits and quality may be compromised, so what should i do, should i work in 16 bits, or keep using that filter despite the warning? or?
if i work in 16 bits will I get less quality when i do zooming, panning, reframing, filters etc? , or if i work in 32 bits are there other alternative filters for slow motion etc that i can use that work in 32 bits?
thank you very much everybody for your advice and help, i love this forum
Javier ideami
1) Color Space and Gamma Space in Source Settings
* im editing in premiere , then opening the red project in after effects for reframing and panning, then i will export to DPX or TIFF, in order to then colour correct in color or da vinci or others;
my question is, in in the source settings of the Red Footage , which color space and gamma space should i choose? im quite confused, some places talk about choosing 709, in other places i see the redspace in both, i understand it may depend on the final destination,
in my case initially i will export to 2K digital and also 1080p HD and soon after i may pass the 2K to 35mm film, so what should i choose for the color space and gamma space, before i export my TIFFs or DPX to bring them to Da Vinci or Color for final color correction? taking into account that the main color correction wont be done in premiere or AE, will be done later in Color or Da Vinci, therefore do you recommend me to leave things pretty neutral in premiere and AE? and which settings would that be in Color Space and Gamma space in source settings?
2) ratios , 1:2 vs 1:2.20
in the specific case of my science fiction film im trying to decide between a ratio of 1:2 which looks very nice, and a ratio of 1:2.20 which looks even more panoramic and also very nice, 2:35 or 2:39 are too much in my case as i lose too much information vertically, so im trying to decide between 1:2 and 1:2.20, the fact is that i prefer 2:20 but my question is, i see that 1:2 is used by a lot of people, but i dont find anywhere people using 2:20, may i have problems in future if i use a ratio such as 2:20? in the case of conversion to 35mm, or bluray discs or others?
3)Reframing, zooming and Panning
My film is shot in 4K 16:9 and output will be 2K 1:2 or 1:2.20,
i intend to do quite a lot of reframing, zooming and panning taking advantage of the 4K within a 2K window, initially i was doing this in premiere, but then i read that in premiere because its not fully in 32 bits , when doing resizings some quality may be lost unless you do the editing in 4K at all times,
so then i loaded the premiere project in after effects which works great and i realize i can now in after effects do pannings, zooming and reframings in 32 bits and at the same time do all effects i need in after effect without having to go back to premiere (as the editing is finished). My question is, as after effects is 32 bits all the time (if i select it in the project settings), that means that if my final output is 2K i can work in a 2K sequence in AE and do reframing and all there without losing quality?
or do i have to work at all times in 4K if i do zoomings, pannings, reframings, in order not to lose quality?
4) AE effects in 32 bits or 16 bits
the adobe videos recommend to work in 32 bits in After effects with the Red footage, however in my case for example i want to use filters such as TimeWarp to create slow motion, and in 32 bits AE says that timewarp is not ready for 32 bits and quality may be compromised, so what should i do, should i work in 16 bits, or keep using that filter despite the warning? or?
if i work in 16 bits will I get less quality when i do zooming, panning, reframing, filters etc? , or if i work in 32 bits are there other alternative filters for slow motion etc that i can use that work in 32 bits?
thank you very much everybody for your advice and help, i love this forum
Javier ideami