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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Collister Dragon Test for ASC

Peter Lyons Collister said:
Pablo,

The Epic Dragon in its native form does not produce Pro Res files. The Meizler Module will be able to do this.

So my footage was transcoded from r3ds in the beta Red Cine X with a minor grade and edited by my friend Jeroen. No post sharpening was applied. It was a 4K post and then output to Red Ray for our demo.

I hope this is clear
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Minor grade thanks, I am playing with some stills out of the movie file and the DR is absolutely ridiculous. One can even duplicate the image and underexpose it to make an HDR one, since there is a lot of information to work with.. Cool!
 
Pablo Moreno said:
I am playing with some stills out of the movie file and the DR is absolutely ridiculous. One can even duplicate the image and underexpose it to make an HDR one, since there is a lot of information to work with.. Cool!
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Makes me wonder what you could do with actual Dragon HDRx!!!
 
Lovely Peter, glad that you share with s.
Cheers from Brasil
 
Hey, Peter. Any chance you could help me with these questions? Thanks again for the beautiful video.

James_Mills said:
Peter, please tell me there wasn't an LC filter on those first few opening shots?

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edit: also, please tell me you weren't using bounces on those opening backlit shots either? This I don't mind as much, but just unreal if this is a purely "point and shoot" series of shots.
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James,

Sorry I am just getting back to you. Absolutely no bounce was used on the closeups or any other shots. I really wanted to see what skin tones and tonal range looked like "out of the box". I added a fan to blow the hair and I was on my Kessler slider.
And no filters were used except an ND9 for some shots and a B/W Pola on some others. There is an inherent softness in some still glass which is why I tried to stay on the 85mm which I have had Nikon work on and is my sharpest lens by far.

Also the flower shot was on a Nikkor 105mm Macro which is also pretty sharp.

I'd be a bit ashamed at myself for using some softening or LC filter
 
Beautiful stuff Peter... To be clear, on the opening shots you didn't manipulate the light at all (diffusion, fill...)? The DR is nutts but as impressive as the DR & skin tine redition is, the most striking thing to me is the feel the image, really organic, especially of the people from :00-:44 secs. Excellent stuff...
 
James,

No manipulation and very little grading. I thought we could have made the grade a little darker. But what was important was sorta seeing what was the look out of the box......

Obviously I would darken and crush a bit in the final grade.

I am hoping to have time to do some more testing with cinema glass. I feel the DR is much improved and more importantly the skin tones are more to the "Alexa Crowd's" liking OUT OF THE BOX.

I think if we get anymore DR then the criticism about an HDR look will begin. At some point we could begin to have too much DR, too low light sensitivity.... At what point is a sensor too good and we need to fuck with it?
 
Peter Lyons Collister said:
James,

Sorry I am just getting back to you. Absolutely no bounce was used on the closeups or any other shots. I really wanted to see what skin tones and tonal range looked like "out of the box". I added a fan to blow the hair and I was on my Kessler slider.
And no filters were used except an ND9 for some shots and a B/W Pola on some others. There is an inherent softness in some still glass which is why I tried to stay on the 85mm which I have had Nikon work on and is my sharpest lens by far.

Also the flower shot was on a Nikkor 105mm Macro which is also pretty sharp.

I'd be a bit ashamed at myself for using some softening or LC filter
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You're the man. Thanks so much, Peter.
 
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