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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

CineForm Officially Supports Red One

Paolo, if could grant that request I wouldn't be here. :)

Kenn, yes you are correct, I'm not on the Mac side of things so I had to go and ask. The timecode as metadata is being preserved (it is in the sample), but QT wants a timecode track and that is not yet in the Mac NEO 4K beta (coming soon.)
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Guys (At Cineform)

I just want to thank you for the product you've created. I had to do a small SD project yesterday, and i wanted to use a little editing program called "SpeedEdit" it's great for corporate work. The Aja files were not working well so I converted to Cineform.

I'll be damned they opened right up in SpeedEdit and off I went..

I'm very exciting about the concept of using the Xena card with Cineform.. I was wondering, can I also CAPTURE directly to Cineform via the Xena 2k?

There's so much good stuff here, and it's only the beginnig.

Thanks again

Your friend,

Jay
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Jay....just don't do a resize or transform in speedit....with cineform it's just all green video

dosn't seem to handle resizing....everything else is ok
I use the video toaster for broadcast work and have cut cineform in a live switch using DDR's with no problems.....just don't resize
 
David,
Anyway to strip the audio out of the R3d file?

I know your waiting for SDK, but on my Vista laptop I can actually open the quicktime referance files....(I don't see any video....just black) and export audio from quicktime pro....

Anybody else able to do this...?
On one system I can, on all others I can't.

So i was just wondering if during the conversion process we could make a real AVI with audio from R3D....?
 
mdharrington said:
David,
Anyway to strip the audio out of the R3d file?

I know your waiting for SDK, but on my Vista laptop I can actually open the quicktime referance files....(I don't see any video....just black) and export audio from quicktime pro....

Anybody else able to do this...?
On one system I can, on all others I can't.

So i was just wondering if during the conversion process we could make a real AVI with audio from R3D....?
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Not until an update on the SDK... :mellow:
 
is anybody else able to open up the quicktime referance files on windows?

no video of course but black with audio

it just struck me that I don't think were supposed to be able to do this on windows....

and if that's the case maybe there is a way to pull the files through quicktime API or something
 
Rendering r3ds to cf raw based on edl smooth like silk.
Thank you.
(But I still need a Cineformerator)

it develops the whole clip and not just the frames, would this be possible?
 
Paolo Tinari said:
Rendering r3ds to cf raw based on edl smooth like silk.
Thank you.
(But I still need a Cineformerator)
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Glad to hear the positive report. Pretty easy isn't it?

To everyone,
keeping the excitement going, check out this RedOne Workflow video created by fellow RedUser, Christopher Grant Harvey. We been sitting on this waiting to produce a voice over track, but can't hang onto this anymore.

Here is the Red One CineForm workflow video using Premiere Pro under Windows.
RedOneWorkflowVideo.jpg

Video download link:http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Red_Workflow.mp4

Thanks you for all your work on this Chris. More C.G.H. training vids to come.
 
I'm super happy with the current edl enhancements, really a time saver, and more than super happy to know it will be possible to do in & out.
And the video rocks.
 
very happy with the updates David....

It's actually hard to stay current.....

I have not seen this level of customer service for software in a long time ...
It's pretty cool when someone can request a feature and have it hours later.
 
mdharrington said:
very happy with the updates David....

It's actually hard to stay current.....

I have not seen this level of customer service for software in a long time ...
It's pretty cool when someone can request a feature and have it hours later.
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Well that doesn't happen everyday, even here. We just had a very productive day, and the EDL feature was the smallest of today's accomplishments. Fingers crossed for that we can roll some new betas next week (no not CS4, that will require 4.0.1 from Adobe.)
 
David Newman said:
Glad to hear the positive report. Pretty easy isn't it?

To everyone,
keeping the excitement going, check out this RedOne Workflow video created by fellow RedUser, Christopher Grant Harvey. We been sitting on this waiting to produce a voice over track, but can't hang onto this anymore.

Here is the Red One CineForm workflow video using Premiere Pro under Windows.
RedOneWorkflowVideo.jpg

Video download link:http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Red_Workflow.mp4

Thanks you for all your work on this Chris. More C.G.H. training vids to come.
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Love the video, but you need to slow it down, getting dizzy trying to keep up and watch the mouse pointer jump all over.
 
sotty said:
Love the video, but you need to slow it down, getting dizzy trying to keep up and watch the mouse pointer jump all over.
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Sorry. :waaa:

Just let the whole clip load and then save it to your pc and watch it as many times as you like.

As long as the video clears any questions up... if not I'll help out with answers if I can.
 
Thanks!

Thanks!

Thanks a million Christopher!! The video is very VERY appreciated!!


Will you do one that throws After Effects in to the mix as well? Taking some RED material edited in premiere in to after effects and ad some simple VFX or colour tweaking and then back again.

I’m about to start editing a music video I shoot on RED. Mostly filmed in 25fps 4K 16:9 ( a few 2k slow motion shots). The finished product should be delivered in 1080p. I’m hoping to cut it in Premiere and then ad some vfx and the final colour grading in after effects.

How does Prospect 4k help the After Effects workflow? Will I have to ad my VFX on the full resolution 4K files or can I work with smaller express files and in the final stage change them to full resolution?

Will I ever have to work in full resolution 4K when my final delivery is 1080p? Guessing the answer will be that I should work at the best possible resolution and down convert to 1080 at the very end to get the best possible quality?




And while I’m at it, another question:

I have some RED material that I would like to adjust the Kelvin temperature on (change from 5000°K to 3200°K). Is there away to do this in Prospect 4K or will that require me to work in Redcine?
 
gusse said:
Thanks a million Christopher!! The video is very VERY appreciated!!


Will you do one that throws After Effects in to the mix as well? Taking some RED material edited in premiere in to after effects and ad some simple VFX or colour tweaking and then back again.

I’m about to start editing a music video I shoot on RED. Mostly filmed in 25fps 4K 16:9 ( a few 2k slow motion shots). The finished product should be delivered in 1080p. I’m hoping to cut it in Premiere and then ad some vfx and the final colour grading in after effects.

How does Prospect 4k help the After Effects workflow? Will I have to ad my VFX on the full resolution 4K files or can I work with smaller express files and in the final stage change them to full resolution?

Will I ever have to work in full resolution 4K when my final delivery is 1080p? Guessing the answer will be that I should work at the best possible resolution and down convert to 1080 at the very end to get the best possible quality?




And while I’m at it, another question:

I have some RED material that I would like to adjust the Kelvin temperature on (change from 5000°K to 3200°K). Is there away to do this in Prospect 4K or will that require me to work in Redcine?
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The color temperation is an Active Metadata control that is directly accessed with Premiere Pro. I'm sure that is shown within the training video http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21171. CineForm files also work very well in AE, but believe using full or HD 444 sources would be best for VFX work -- I would love to hear user workflow for using Express files in AE then exchanging them for 4K or HD444.
 
So are the looks just set per project with the express workflow?
What if I want 1 clip with one look, and another with a totally different look?
When you run a color correction plugin, does that run on the raw file, or does it
run on top of the LUT (if that's the right use of the term) that is set as the 'look'?



-Tom
 
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