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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

CineForm Officially Supports Red One

I am too.

I'll be happy when the GUI is in place but am doing just fine for the moment with things the way they are - trying different approaches to see what works best for us - going through Express vs. going straight to 4K CFHDAVI etc. Still some things to learn, I can tell; but so far, definitely so good.
 
I thought I'd bring some information from the middle of this thread - with the latest links to the conversion tool - to the end so everybody can be sure they have the latest. The latest R2CF.exe tool is v1.40. It is included with the latest Prospect 4K and Neo 4K downloads. But if you downloaded an earlier version of Prospect/Neo you may have an earlier version of the converter. The improvement to v1.40 converter is mainly the scripts for batch processing (which are quite convenient!). So:

R2CF v1.40: http://www.miscdata.com/red/R2CFv140.zip. Unzip the contents into: C:\Program Files\CineForm\Tools

To do a batch conversion go the to the Start Menu -> Programs -> CineForm -> Tools -> R2CF... This will open a shell (command prompt) and offer initial instructions on the conversion. From here type:

cscript scripts/BatchExpress.vbs [R3Dpath] [outputPath]​

If your R3D files are located on v:\project1\ and you output path is v:\master, your command line will be:

cscript scripts/BatchExpress.vbs v:\project1 v:\master​

Express files will be placed in v:\master\express

If you don't have P4K or N4K installed, you can download here. These downloads include the latest R2CF v1.40 converter.

P4K download: http://www.cineform.com/products/Downloads/DownloadP4KTrialStart.htm
N4K download: http://www.cineform.com/products/Downloads/DownloadNEO4KTrialStart.htm
 
May not be a question for you, but should be noted there is an issue with mxf files with latest build 179. Since I upgraded to 179 mxf "not supported", same error on all 3 of my computers. Sent a support ticket in 3 days ago.
 
I'm sure it will be addressed in the new week. MXF can be for so many source now: Grass Valley Infinity JPEG2000, Panasonic P2 DVCPRO-HD, Sony XCAM HD and EX MPEG2, all different. I guess added a feature for one camera broke another, so make your your trouble ticket lists which MXF camera source you are using.
 
I saw the Cineform Express file that was converted by Mr. Miyajima and it looks fabulous! I'm thrilled that such small file look so good and I can grade with this, then later replaced with the master 4K file.

I'm convincing a film team to adopt Cineform for their project.

I can't wait till you come out with Mac version with GUI.
 
David Taylor said:
Whenever it is convenient in your workflow you can unlink the Express files and re-link the full-res Master files to complete your online edit at your final mastering resolution while retaining effects, transitions, color correction, etc - no proxy files, EDLs, or conforming required.
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Hi David, Concerning the Express file workflow, if one is editing with the express in a 1k project, once you relink to the 4k resolution files, how do you adjust the project to match the 4k files, or do you import your project into a 4k project, or do you just export 4k resolution from that 1k project as premiere is resolution independent, like in the example video, adobe made with the r3d files, where the working resolution was 512 pixels or watever it was.

Pls chime in here, thanks.
 
Here things are pretty flexible.

Two main approaches.
1) Use 1K Express files in a preset that is set to your finishing resolution, and have Premiere set to scale to default size. This is what most are doing as the preset already exist. Media can be re-link directly with the same project session.

or

2) Create a 1K preset and edit in that, which is little faster than the above as no additional scaling it needed. When your edit is finished, import the 1K project into a new finishing res. project and re-link the media.

Both methods work well, and all the Active Metadata transfers without issue.
 
Arno said:
Hello David,

Woudl you consider putting together a little pdf or tutorial about the second method.

Also did you see my post 2 pages ago about the error message that the express script is giving me?

Thanks,

Arnaud
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Arnaud,

What part of the of the second method should we expand on? Here is some more info. Creating a preset is easy, click on a existing preset then go to the custom tab and change the resolution to 1024 by 512 (for 2:1 sources), and use that mode, edit as normal. The second part, you can import an existing project just as you would video media, it a pretty neat feature of Premiere.

You must have missed my reply to the script question here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=276327&postcount=76
 
David,

Is there a way to batch convert all the R3D files in the main folder, where by it will look through all sub folders for the R3D files and batch convert all in order. ?

Right now I'm doing them one at a time, still executing BatchExpress.vbs
 
Yes, although we haven't provided a script for that. If others don't create that scruipt I'll look into it. Much of the scripting stuff need goes away with HDLink integration, although this particular script modification this would likely be very useful for many.
 
That would save a ton of time. Also will the process someday soon be as simple as pressing buttons and checking off boxes through Cineforms preference menu rather than working from the command prompt?
 
That is the idea. Of course in the meantime, just search on *.R3D in your complex path, then drag the search results into a higher directory on the same volume. This takes a only a few seconds, then you can batch all R3Ds with one script call.
 
David, with your HP workstation, do you get realtime playback with 2k files when the cineform playback setting in premiere for half res playback are unchecked? or do you always have that checked to help things along, I'm on a old HP workstation, I get great playback with 2k files when its set to on, but when I uncheck that for full resolution playback, it's a no go, doesnt' bother me, just was interested what the deal is with latest computer.

Thanks
 
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