Cine Zoom Lenses for Komodo (Budget Friendly)

[joshua csehak]

I have a trio I really like, like really really like because they play well together and they aren't all made by the same manufacturer which is a miracle.

Do tell! What are they?

If you want small and ultra wide with a zoom, the Tokina 11-20mm T2.9 is pretty much a gold mine and helps flesh out that side of things when added to some of the options first posted.

I love my Tokina 11-16, it cuts together wonderfully with the Otus's. I keep thinking I might step up to the 11-20 but I can't decide which is better to round out the Otus set, that or the 18mm Milivus. Thoughts? Any downsides to it?

 

[GeorgeAgazarian]

Hi to all, what do you think which one from the affordable cine zoom lenses will give for narrative style shooting the best image quality, sharpness, contrast and matching to natural face skin color look in the image.
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I tested a lot of prime lenses at duclos, and sigma was the sharpest of all of them. Its also very well built. I really liked sigma after testing out all there cinema lenses. I highly reccomend them. Plus the sigmas are t2 compared to the rest of the zooms.

 

[Hayk Frangulyan]

5. Rehoused Sigma stills into Cine Zoom Lenses from CINEMATICS*


I’m considering this as I’m definitely getting the Komodo, currently have Canon EF lenses but really keen on cine lenses and the sigma cine maybe but cinematics seems maybe too good of a price.

Anyone had any experience with this lenses? Only seen one video review on YouTube and it could have been a sponsored video so...

Cheers

I guess you are talking about this review? If so i dont think he got payed for making them. https://youtu.be/no3Yj4kx1Lw https://youtu.be/im8C7V9Fiyk

Besides that if you will compare Cinematics rehoused Sigma 18-35mm (price 1499$) with US rehousing company G.L. Optics – Sigma 18-35mm (price 2995$), you are saving a lot of money and the most specs are same and focus range as well, both have 120 degree.

Cinematics rehoused Sigma
https://tinyurl.com/ycc3ozj8

G.L. Optics rehoused Sigma
https://tinyurl.com/ycdk8h6k

 

[Hayk Frangulyan]

I tested a lot of prime lenses at duclos, and sigma was the sharpest of all of them. Its also very well built. I really liked sigma after testing out all there cinema lenses. I highly reccomend them. Plus the sigmas are t2 compared to the rest of the zooms.

Agree with you, but focus breathing on sigma 50-100mm and maybe on 18-35mm is horrible right?

 

[James Sielaff]

I heard DZO will soon offer their parfocal zoom lenses in PL-mount covering S35.

http://wap.dzofilm.com

DZO's are great. They have more character than Sigma, and less breathing.

 

[GeorgeAgazarian]

Agree with you, but focus breathing on sigma 50-100mm and maybe on 18-35mm is horrible right?

Aper check this out!

https://youtu.be/KhD3NTZXgVE


Hopefully this answers it for the sigma. I dont own the sigma i own the zeiss for primes. But when i tested the sigmas with a bunch of other lens i really loved that company and that was my second choice.

 

[Peter Stanley]

For some budget friendly lenses check out IRIX Cine lenses. There’s some on the B&H website. They’re very cheap and from most reports pretty great too. I haven’t used them but definitely would like to at some stage. they’re not zoom lenses though...

 

[Hayk Frangulyan]

Aper check this out!

https://youtu.be/KhD3NTZXgVE


Hopefully this answers it for the sigma. I dont own the sigma i own the zeiss for primes. But when i tested the sigmas with a bunch of other lens i really loved that company and that was my second choice.

bari, i will watch the review, thanks.

 

[GeorgeAgazarian]

For some budget friendly lenses check out IRIX Cine lenses. There’s some on the B&H website. They’re very cheap and from most reports pretty great too. I haven’t used them but definitely would like to at some stage. they’re not zoom lenses though...

I second that, the irix lens was one of the ones i tested, for the price it was really good.
You can have the whole line for the price of one of those sigma lens.

 

[Retson Ross]

I'l' be using the basic RF>EF mount with my 24-105mm f/4L and 50mm 1.4

 

[Bob Gundu]

Agree with you, but focus breathing on sigma 50-100mm and maybe on 18-35mm is horrible right?

18-35 doesn’t suffer like the 50-100 does.

 

[Alex Javier Guana]

I guess you are talking about this review? If so i dont think he got payed for making them. https://youtu.be/no3Yj4kx1Lw https://youtu.be/im8C7V9Fiyk

Besides that if you will compare Cinematics rehoused Sigma 18-35mm (price 1499$) with US rehousing company G.L. Optics – Sigma 18-35mm (price 2995$), you are saving a lot of money and the most specs are same and focus range as well, both have 120 degree.

Cinematics rehoused Sigma
https://tinyurl.com/ycc3ozj8

G.L. Optics rehoused Sigma
https://tinyurl.com/ycdk8h6k

Very interesting point! Thank you for the links

 

[wade john muller]

I recently used the Sigmas to shoot this feature film (The Cave) in Thailand the Sigmas were fantastic, we needed fast Zooms to shoot the style we were going for.

Here is some more info regarding the shooting on the film https://www.wademullerdp.com/post/the-cave

 

[joshua csehak]

Wade that looks incredible!

 

[Matt Beardsley]

Once Komodo supports native RF glass, I'm anxious to see how my RF 15-35, 24-70, and 70-200 fare for proper production work.. I've been really impressed with them on the EOS R (impressed with the glass, of course, not soooo much the camera...) I think optical stabilization on all three is pretty incredible to have available, and they have that warm glowy Canon vibe for sure..

 

[Matt Beardsley]

I recently used the Sigmas to shoot this feature film (The Cave) in Thailand the Sigmas were fantastic, we needed fast Zooms to shoot the style we were going for.

Wow, that really does look incredible. Awesome blend of newsy and cinematic vibes in the trailer.

 

[wade john muller]

Thanks Matt,

These are some of the notes I put together prior to shooting -

CINEMATOGRAPHY STYLE NOTES:


• No dolly, crane or Steadicam. Shoot everything hand-held.

• Follow the actors and dialogue with the camera. Never lead them, even after several takes when you know who is about to speak.

• No marks for actors and no camera rehearsals. Let actors walk freely. Don’t worry if an actor blocks another actor who is delivering lines, simply get the shots by moving around.

• If it’s a slow scene, the camera should float around with subtle zooming. If the scene has lots of activity the camera energy should be more frantic with faster zooms.

• Zoom into actors at crucial moments. These can be long and fast zooms, not just subtle creeping in if the scene has a lot of intensity.

• If we have two cameras running, the A and B camera will sometimes swap position to help give it that ‘shooting the scene for the first time look’.

• Use a follow-focus on the zoom for better control.

• No car-rigs for car shots. The camera is either always in the vehicle or outside on the ground shooting the vehicle driving past, if we do vehicle to vehicle shots we don’t use any stabilizers.

 

[Doryus Sniper Jones]

Thanks Matt,

These are some of the notes I put together prior to shooting -

CINEMATOGRAPHY STYLE NOTES:


• No dolly, crane or Steadicam. Shoot everything hand-held.

• Follow the actors and dialogue with the camera. Never lead them, even after several takes when you know who is about to speak.

• No marks for actors and no camera rehearsals. Let actors walk freely. Don’t worry if an actor blocks another actor who is delivering lines, simply get the shots by moving around.

• If it’s a slow scene, the camera should float around with subtle zooming. If the scene has lots of activity the camera energy should be more frantic with faster zooms.

• Zoom into actors at crucial moments. These can be long and fast zooms, not just subtle creeping in if the scene has a lot of intensity.

• If we have two cameras running, the A and B camera will sometimes swap position to help give it that ‘shooting the scene for the first time look’.

• Use a follow-focus on the zoom for better control.

• No car-rigs for car shots. The camera is either always in the vehicle or outside on the ground shooting the vehicle driving past, if we do vehicle to vehicle shots we don’t use any stabilizers.

Thanks for the notes. I went back and re-watched after you provided the them and I can see the implementation. I dig it.

 

[Kacey Baker]

I most definitely recommend the MKX 18-55. I bought it after seeing Nick Thomas’ brilliant short, Momento Of Life, which is worth checking out on YouTube, which was shot on xt3.

I’ve only shot one short using the mkx18-55 seen below, and that’s only using an xt3, I can only imagine how feature filmic that lens will look once I have my Komodo....

 

[wade john muller]

18-35 doesn’t suffer like the 50-100 does.

From my experience with the 50-100, I was pretty hesitant to purchase in the beginning because of the breathing, watching the tests online most shots showed infinity to minimum focus to show the full extent of the breathing, when you actually start shooting with it you don't really notice it for most of your normal shooting only for the occasional huge focus pull you would see it.