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Christopher Nolan Explains Why You Can't Hear Some of 'Oppenheimer's Dialogue

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BY COLLIDER




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https://collider.com/oppenheimer-dialogue-christopher-nolan-comments/



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I Didn’t think Oppenheimer had much moments where the dialogue couldn’t be heard.
 
Leonardo Newman said:
I Didn’t think Oppenheimer had much moments where the dialogue couldn’t be heard.
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Maybe he just based that on what he is probably used to with movie audio levels. It looks like a very interesting movie all the same.
 
Oppenheimer launched a new debate about ‘true IMAX’ — but does the format matter?


By Polygon


ARTICLE
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/23807501/oppenheimer-true-imax-definition-best-theaters


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If the future of cinema is IMAX (which you cannot easily replicate domestically), then Red is perfectly positioned. 65mm is unbeatable for overall subjective image quality but Red 8K cameras can do 120fps RAW 8K in total silence. Worth a thought.
 
The real problem with the sound mix in Oppenheimer is that the music is much too loud, to the point where it's everpresent and overpowering. I don't know what Nolan's problem is, but he's been criticized for it many times in the past.


Christopher Nolan Says Fellow Directors Have Called
to Complain About His ‘Inaudible’ Sound
https://www.indiewire.com/features/...olan-directors-complain-sound-mix-1234598386/

It's not the lack of ADR that's at fault -- it's the levels and the balance.
 
Marc Wielage said:
The real problem with the sound mix in Oppenheimer is that the music is much too loud, to the point where it's everpresent and overpowering. I don't know what Nolan's problem is, but he's been criticized for it many times in the past.


Christopher Nolan Says Fellow Directors Have Called
to Complain About His ‘Inaudible’ Sound
https://www.indiewire.com/features/...olan-directors-complain-sound-mix-1234598386/

It's not the lack of ADR that's at fault -- it's the levels and the balance.
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Thanks Marc for sharing this info!
 
Saw a decent 4K projection of it in a largish cinema, so the sound and picture were technically about as good as you could expect for that kind of screening.

There were about three or four times for me when I didn't catch what someone was saying, but it wasn't worse than what I've seen in some other movies. From memory, an example would be when it was the last line of dialogue someone said as they were turned or turning away from camera, so I'd put that down to their delivery, accent, and the actual writing as much as anything (dialogue that I would have had to try and make sense of even it was perfectly audible). Pretty sure I did hear in one instance, during an interior shot, the sound of the post-noise-reduced camera sneaking in under the dialogue though, so yeah it must have been a challenge to record cleanly.

I don't recall being distracted by the music, but there were times when the sound design was definitely pushing the limits of standard film-making, which I didn't have a problem with, seeing it as a creative use of the technology. Some of it did seem a bit gimmicky though. The scene where the main character gave the speech to the cheering crowd just seemed a bit overdone to me.

I understand shooting in the IMAX format was necessary for that kind of delivery, but in the version I saw, there wasn't anything there that I thought really needed it. Was hoping for more visual examples of the benefits of originating on film too, but it just re-inforced my opinion that using actual film isn't necessary either, or more precisely, that it doesn't ensure visually pleasing or engaging or movie-enhancing results. Imo the black and white footage in particular was lacking. At the same time, when it did look like well-shot film it was really nice to see it and it helped tie the movie in to it's epic big-budget movie lineage in my own mind. Thinking of David Lean and Kubrick movies in particular.

Definitely ambivalent about the movie in general. Felt a bit ripped off immediately afterwards, but later on, remembering the good bits, was left with a better impression.

Would rather see the same technology and resources used in a less self-conscious, more story-driven way, using actors who don't remind me I'm watching actors regardless of how good their performances are, and incorporating cinematography, sets and locations that are essential for the setting and playing out of the story and characterizations. Not saying Nolan couldn't do that, but that's not what I saw in the latest movie. Wasn't that impressed by 'Interstellar' either, the last movie I saw of his. But still think 'Insomnia' is one of the best made films I've ever seen, which I saw randomly at the movies before I even knew who Nolan was (didn't see 'Momento"). So, yeah...
 
From the archives: Robert Oppenheimer in 1965 on if the bomb was necessary


By CBS News


 
Oppenheimer 11K IMAX Scans vs. ARRI Alexa, RED Raptor VV, Sony Venice 2, Fuji GFX, iPhone & AI in 8K



BY Visar




Let's compare 8K Oppenheimer IMAX Scans against the Arri Alexa 35 & 65, RED V-Raptor VV, Sony Venice 2 8.6K, Fuji GFX 50R, Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max and AI-Upscaled trailers in glorious 8K.

00:00 Intro
00:41 What will we test?
01:27 Are the Scans legitimate?
02:30 How will we test the cameras?
02:58 The Best-Case IMAX Scenario
03:24 Resolution and the 16K and 18K confusion
03:48 Analyzing 11K 15 per. 70mm Scan
04:18 IMAX vs. Fujifilm GFX 50R
05:29 Analyzing 8K 15 per. 70mm Scans
07:53 Resolution vs. Sharpness - What's the difference?
09:53 Analyzing 8K 5 perf. 65mm Scans
11:11 IMAX vs. ARRI ALEXA 35
12:40 IMAX vs. ARRI ALEXA 65
14:13 IMAX vs. RED V-Raptor 8K VV
15:26 IMAX vs. Sony VENICE 2 8.6K
16:50 IMAX vs. iPhone 14 Pro Max
17:36 IMAX vs. Topaz Video AI
19:01 Conclusion

The IMAX Oppenheimer Scans were provided by UPI Media Austria.

Christopher Nolan
Hoyte van Hoytema

Thanks to Universal Pictures, ARRI AG., RED Digital Cinema, and Sony Europe B.V. for making the cinema camera material publicly available, which you can find here:

Sources:
GFX & iPhone files:
15 perf. 70mm IMAX Oppenheimer Scans: bit.ly/45qRq2N0
RED Files: bit.ly/47R3EmU0
Sony Files: bit.ly/44lhSJS0
All ALEXA: bit.ly/3PdWPET0
ALEXA 35: bit.ly/45pP44i0
ALEXA 65: bit.ly/45v19Fl0
 
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