CHE - Criterion

[Lucas Wilson]

Hi all,

I had the pleasure of going to Criterion in NYC this week - great people who do incredible work. All of the "Criterion Collection" DVDs and BluRays come from that shop.

They are working on the Criterion Collection release of CHE, which will include a ton of behind-the-scenes stuff that will be of tremendous interest to probably everyone on Reduser. Lots about the production and post of the movie... in depth technical stuff from the crew and from Stephen himself.

Best,

Lucas


Lucas Wilson
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Director, Business Development
ASSIMILATE, inc.
LA, CA, USA

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

I wonder if Che will ever be re-finished using the new color science?

 

[Alexander Ibrahim]

I wonder if Che will ever be re-finished using the new color science?

Why? Was something drastically technically wrong with the original finish?

If there wasn't a problem, then I doubt there'll be a refinish for many many years. Even then, there is a good chance it will be refinished from a film print, IP or the like- not the R3D's.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Criterion DVDs or theirs Blu-ray are pretty respectable in my movie collection.

 

[Blair S. Paulsen]

Considering the grittier look SS was seeking on that piece and the fact that it is in fact finished and signed off on in its current iteration I doubt re-coloring with the new color science is in the (CF) cards.

It might be a fun little project for a colorist to take the original r3ds and re-grade a couple of specific scenes to see what came out. Ultimately though, creative intent is the trump card and AFAIK it was achieved with the older color science.

Now, let's talk about the Red Ray releases...

Cheers - #19

 

[Frank Weeks]

I remember seeing parts of Che on the original Red real at NAB 08. I can't imagine it could be improved much if any. It was stunning footage.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Why does it have to be "wrong" to re-finish?

Not now, not soon, later.

They might be funny as heck that I say this, but the sound of music comes to mind. Did they need to do anything to that film? Was it bad to begin with?

Re-finishing is done because they can and because it gives the owner a way to sell it again.

The gritty look could still be attained, only now with a more accurate base to work off of. A better interpretation of the color gives you more information to work with, and additional creative room for the grittiness to say more.

 

[Justin K Phillips]

By why would they redo something they are satisfied with? Not everyone has a Lucas complex.

 

[David Mullen ASC]

It's one thing to take the digital cinema master and do a Rec 709 color-correction pass for 1080P home video mastering... and another to go back to the R3D files and re-transcord, re-comform and re-color-correct the whole movie from scratch.

Financially, that's a big leap -- Criterion couldn't afford to do that, so who would be picking up the tab?