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Charlton Heston Dies at 84

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I'd still say... Isn't this thread about a great actor that dedicated his last part of his life to an odd and reversal cause towards his past in his moving picture career?
 
nice try.. you are all (?) right..
 
filmmaker's gang said:
i can't follow your humor.. too much for my taste.. reminds me that another post.. your post.. already.. smoke out?
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Don't give it a second thought filmmakers gang, he's from west Texas. they love their guns, god, and country. Anyone that questions that is authoritarian. Thats why they call it the lone star state.
 
i did say nothing.. ehehehehe :innocent: or we should be accused of going OT once again.. :usd:

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anyway.. here goes.. only as topic now :) what should you expect?.. the power doesn't give up so easily.. or democratically sometimes.. only under the power of guns (fidel castro)

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hey, did i mention the word gunssssssss?.. :sarcasm:
 
filmmaker's gang said:
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anyway.. here goes.. only as topic :) what should you expect?.. the power doesn't give up so easily.. only under the power of guns (fidel castro)

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hey, did i mention the word gunsssssss?.. :sarcasm:
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You said the G word. :)

Otherwise, no. No Castros, please.

Just peaceful execut... I beg your pardon,... demonstrations.

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:) :)

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karapetkov said:
In short: the people , the political "elite" (scumbags) who've ruled Bulgaria for the last 20 years, and the last 10 euro-atlantic are the same communist people who ruled the country before the "fall" of communism. They're the same people.

The "different" political parties are all derivatives of the former communist party. They're just imitating democracy, because otherwise there would really be a civil war. They're under control.

But the government people are no democrats, they just adapted to the Western Wind in order to survive and keep their power to a certain degree. The Soviet Union was gone, Russia was\is weak and the knew they had no choice.
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hmmmm doesn't sound so different from North America really, only here it's a total pr game 24/7. .
If you're making a comment or tribute to someone, they have to be judged on their life's work and what they did, not just a singular contribution to an industry. Heston shouldn't be seen only as a guy who acted, because he wasn't. So it's unreasonable to say that his highly political activities are out of bounds. Leni Riefenstahl anyone?
 
fightordie said:
Don't give it a second thought filmmakers gang, he's from west Texas. they love their guns, god, and country. Anyone that questions that is authoritarian. Thats why they call it the lone star state.
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NASCAR... don't forget NASCAR. Actually, I do have guns but I don't love them. Don't even clean them regularly because I no longer hunt, so don't need to.

I "hunt" with cameras now, but I do not object to people who do hunt for food or even "sport", as long as they respect the right and the craft. I don't care for people who shoot for a high score of kills. (I have been guilty of this same body count behaviour when I was younger and I consider those as some of my darker days. My best and most memorable hunts were done alone and at the end of the day, I returned with the same number of unspent cartridges I began with. The lesson is, never hunt in a pack.)

god... I am an agnostic at the moment.

country... Yes, I love Texas... scratch that, not North Texas (damn Yankees) nor East Texas (High brow teasips), South Texas starting at San Antonio on doun is O.K., Central Texas is copasetic, and the Panhandle is good as well. Our neighbors to the north, the U.S., has some good and bad places, while our neighbors to the south, Mexico, also has good and bad spots.

Hope this clarifies where I'm comin' from.
 
my respect.. very humble from your part.. seriously.. btw, to be a believer is a good thing.. so, to have a God too.. it just depends of Who really is at y_our own eyes imho..

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since i'm trying to bring God to the topic on the way, can i consider myself as being not OT now?.. :)
 
filmmaker's gang said:
btw, to be a believer is a good thing.. so, to have a God too.. it just depends of Who really is at y_our own eyes imho..
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Not ruling it out... just awaiting more evidence.

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since i'm talking about God, can i consider myself as being not OT now?.. :)
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Yes, speaking of god is not off topic in this thread, since Heston was a God among actors.:)
 
got it!.. but you're forgetting his typical cecil characters too..

speaking about cecil.. isn't the same director who had denounced his mates of being comunists?.. :poster_oops: my apologies.. i forgot and added the word "c"..


hey, i'm not a "c".. so please, don't take me for the black list.. i need to feed my four wifes and..


i just love my soviet glass.. no more than that!


that's it.. now speaking seriously.. again.. may this great icon rest in peace.. he deserves it.. not for his last legacy.. but for his work giving us pictures which we'll never forget.. specially, that rifle raised on "his Moses" hand.. just kidding, just kidding.. :)


:usd: he will live forever in our collective imaginary.. :calm: am i on topic now?..
 
Availability of guns is not one of those factors.
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Of course it is. There are about 5-7 cases where s father killed his whole familiy per anum here, because soldiers are allowed to take their rifles home.. and plenty suicides commited with them. It's not that they would use a hammer if they wouldn't find a rifle in their closet.

I never said, that mentality isn't a strong and probably bigger factor also.
 
Just a frustrating precision: A lot of you refer to United States as 'Americans', or 'North America', etc... And that's pretty annoying to some, if not pretentious...

So just a precision, again, to state ;P that North America is a HUGE continent, hosting 5 very different countries: Canada, Greenland, United States, Mexico, Bermuda... I think we should call United States americans "united staters" or something... Because technically, Cubans are americans, funnily enough... So correct me if I'm wrong, but besides continent, not even land, I'm not sure Mexicans share a lot with Greenlanders, nor Cubans with Canadians... So as far as 'gun talks' are concerned, keep it to the USofAY please... Since that's what this now Eston/NRA thread is about...

As a Canadian living abroad in beautiful Paris, with TONS of friends I love in the US, I hate to be the miserable northern cousin of the USA, like, all the time in those discussions and I think it's about time people grow up and learn a little politics and geography... Respect each other and avoid conceptual and intellectual shortcuts... It's not nice to anybody to be categorized for their religion, color, nationality or else... we are in 2008 for CS...

And we are all Red here...
 
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