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Cartoni Master Tripod a good buy?

Asif Limbada

Asif Limbada

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with an 18mm RPP, RED Brick, MatteBox, Follow Focus, Touchscreen, HDSDI recorder, other Accessories, we are seeing at least 20+pound camera, the best thing would be if I am doing rung and gun, with the Dovetail Long plate fixed on the tripod head, just slide in the the whole CLUTCH on to it. I am sure thats going to be heavy.

If you still thing 27 pounds (that includes tripod legs, actually weight is 19pounds) is too heavy, what do you suggest that would withstand good counterbalance and smoothness at at least 30kgs (I prefer Cartoni or Sachtler)
 
For my MX, which was close to that weight, I used a Cartoni Delta head. The package was right at the edge of the head's capabilities (with springs cranked up), but it just means you don't get as much drag on tilts. I'd rather sacrifice some drag and have one guy be able to pick up the camera and sticks. I'm comfortable with a look that isn't always perfectly precise - more organic. I guess it all depends on your style of shooting. I know everything works against keeping the camera package light (all the gear you mention), but I'm determined to make the small weight of the Epic allow us to be more mobile with a smaller crew. For others, a more traditional style of shooting makes sense. I understand that too.

Tim Eaton
 
Also everyones raving about o'oconnor 2065 that weighs roughly the same. And cartoni from what I understand is one of the best.
 
You might want to look at this, Asif: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/740536-REG/Cartoni_D600R_D600R_Delta_Rosso_Head.html

Supports 48 lbs, weighs 7.7 pounds. People worry about backlash, not as solid as the bigger heads, not as much drag, etc. I go for the weight savings and make my operating style fit the light head. Cinema, commercials, music videos, and almost everything else these days feature a much more organic style. I don't think film / digital cinema needs to look like it was shot with a gear head anymore. Different strokes for different folks, however.

Tim
 
My Cartoni experience is limited to the delta heads from many many years ago but the one thing that was a constant nuisance were the rosettes that would strip and wear down very quickly. It meant constantly having to get them replaced and the arm never being tight when you needed it.

O'Conner, Sachtler and Vinten are all the same company now. Pushing a head to its payload limits doesn't just mean you don't have as much drag as you need but more importantly you're beyond what they counterbalance springs can offset which makes operating a chore (to be polite). 2065 is a little brother to the 2575. Personally, I went with the 2575D since it is the same weight as the 2065, has higher payload, is THE STANDARD that other production heads are compared to and I figure I'll be buried with the thing so when I spread out the cost over the rest of my natural life the 2575D seemed the clear winner.

Not helping you with your Cartoni decision, just mentioning that there are other factors that you may not see on the brochures to take into consideration.

For documentary shooting a 1030D handles my stripped down R1MX pretty well.
 
Hi! We own a Cartoni Master with our Red... Very happy with It!
The counterbalance system is great, a bit like OConnor. Easy to adjust with different camera configuration...
It maybe a little heavy for a small Epic configuration, but great with a heavy zoom, monitor etc...
A nice head! If you have a super deal, no hesitation!

Best regards.
Antoine
 
its for around 6500USD, nice right?

What happens when the config is less than 10kgs??
 
Asif Limbada said:
its for around 6500USD, nice right?

What happens when the config is less than 10kgs??
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Very good price!
I used the Master with camera configurations probably from 7kg to 20kg without any problem...
With a 4kg camera I think it might work because the counterbalance system is smooth from almost nothing to very strong... But it's a big head for this kind of camera...

By the way It's very easy to change from a 150mm bowl support to Mitchell... 5 screws...
A good choice!

Antoine
 
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