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Canon mount for the RED ONE...

Jannard said:
As for the manual... we are working on it. I also bought several Betacams, a Varicam and a Sony 950. It looks to me like the service manuals cost me between $30K-$50K per camera. :-)

Jim
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Good point, HA HA, Have to agree with Tico, touche.

I've always said if RED had waited until it was fully developed, it would be introduced in 2009 at about $45K (which still would have been a bargain) and I probably wouldn't have been in the market. And all of us would have spent the last year and a half talking about 1080P instead of 4K. I know your busy nailing down build sixteen (very nice BTW. shot the sharks with it last week.) so keeping my $25K discount in mind I can wait a bit longer.

Glad you are keeping an open mind. We're moving through summer fast and I need a solution soon so I'm still rooting for Erik to get approved (like maybe Thursday?:biggrin:)

But I also had my housings in the 4K ninjas booth at NAB next to Element's booth so got to talk to Hector a bit. ET makes some seriously cool stuff and they are certainly a potent addition to the party.
 
Jannard said:
Having said that, we are working more closely now with 3rd parties in an effort to make everyone happy, especially our customers.
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I recently sent an email to RED about this concerning the Birger mount. I really appreciate hearing this.

Brian
 
It is in everyone's best interests that accessories come out as quickly as possible, as inexpensively as possible and don't blow up the camera! :-)

We have every reason to move things along as quickly as possible on our end. A happy customer makes for a good business.

In the past, we assumed too much... not anymore.

Jim
 
If anyone is going to purchase an electronic Canon EF mount, I would plead with you to make sure you purchase Birger's / Erik's mount.

The man has put his heart and soul into this project for over a year and deserves our support.

For the record: I do not know Erik very well, and this is not me shilling for him.. I am simply a REDuser who has followed his incredible journey for a long time now, and I feel it would be a terrible thing for his project to fail so close to completion.

Other's may have a mount amoung other products they sell, but this product is Erik's soul focus, and to me, that counts for something.

He's one of us.

Jay
 
Glad to see that RED is taking a more active interest in a Canon EF solution. I'm very much looking forward to the day when I can use my three-month-old camera. :)

And yeah, I share Jay's sense of loyalty to Birger. Assuming Erik can get this sucker to market soon.
 
Is the Muse FD mount not being considered by RED at all? Has there been any communication between Kevin and the RED team regarding his mount? I have a lot of FD's and no need for electronics...and I bought his mount, though haven't installed it pending the outcome of all this stuff. Will there be any mods to make it acceptable?
 
I talked to Kevin on the weekend. He isn't proceeding with the current design of the Muse Mount as it was designed around the old (pre-adjustable ) mount.

If he takes another swing at it we will be glad to take a look at it.
 
I am also pulling for Erik. But mostly I am pulling for all of us to acheive the full potential of this amazing Red/Canon combination. Birger has years of experience contolling these lenses and he has developed a system solution customized to the Red One that is proven and is ready now. We have an opportunity here to move forward now, with no more delays, and with the true expert in this arena.
 
Getken, I own the Muse mount and it's simple, well-built and it's very simple to install. It's the only thing that has allowed me to use the RED as a camera and not as a doorstop. And for that I'm very grateful to Kevin Halverson. He's tops.

I found out about the voided warranty just recently (so did Kevin), after I had already installed it. I don't think it's fair, but then again, I don't make the rules at RED.

Hopefully, things will get sorted out adequately with the other third party vendors Jim mentioned. But I can't see why the Muse mount can't be certified just as well.

:meh:
 
I'm sure that it would have been stated if the information were available, but is there any sort of timeframe or information at all on the element mount? It would be in their best interest to throw us a bone ASAP.
 
I am sad to say that at this time we won't be accepting any new orders for our FD mount system. I will be in contact with current owner's to explain what can be done (and what the performance limitations are) working within the constraints of the adjustable PL mount. I am sure we will come up with something that will meet everyone's requirements.

Not to worry, we will support all customers who have our mount. We have been manufacturing products for over 20 years (and I have been in manufacturing for over 30) so we won't disappear just because we discontinued one product.

For those that have given their words of encouragement I thank each and every one of you.

Good shooting everyone,

Kevin
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
If anyone is going to purchase an electronic Canon EF mount, I would plead with you to make sure you purchase Birger's / Erik's mount.

The man has put his heart and soul into this project for over a year and deserves our support.

For the record: I do not know Erik very well, and this is not me shilling for him.. I am simply a REDuser who has followed his incredible journey for a long time now, and I feel it would be a terrible thing for his project to fail so close to completion.

Other's may have a mount amoung other products they sell, but this product is Erik's soul focus, and to me, that counts for something.

He's one of us.

Jay
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Well said. If I still wind up getting this camera (aside from the Birger mount issue, I insist on a fully functional mic input section, too), I will be buying the Birger and only the Birger. In addition to my desire to reward Erik's ingenuity and tireless work (and rework!), I have a difficult time seeing how any other company could offer what he's offering at the price he's offering it.

ET makes some nice gear, for sure, but their bridgeplate is $900. For $1,450, Birger is offering a game-changing interface for some of the best optical glass in the world (Canon and Nikon) and state-of-the art electronic control of same. That's value on the order of the RED camera itself.
 
Of course we're all pulling for Erik. . . and I'll certainly buy his mount if/when it comes out. But I wouldn't bet on him to beat ET to the punch.

Stephen
 
In the Element vs Birger debate. I have to say I hope everything works out for Birger and their mount and I will gladly buy it.

But at the same time I've been over to Element Technica and they actually pick up their phone and have great customer service so I am definitely interested in what they have to offer.
 
Jannard said:
...Element has proven to be the single most solid accessory maker for RED. They have certainly taught us a few lessons. We are happy for our customers to hear of their interest in building many more accessories for RED, including an electronic Canon mount. Everything they make works... and works well.
Jim
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I agree--they've shown themselves to be pretty fab on a couple of occasions already.

I've begun to think of them as the "P+S Technik of the Left Coast"!

In terms of precision and ingenuity they rival those crafty Germans... just add black socks and sandals! :usd:
 
I guess the question for some of us will be will Element also make a Nikon version... if not, then Birger would seem to still be the option for those of us who want electronic control of G lenses.
 
Mark Crabtree said:
I am also pulling for Erik. But mostly I am pulling for all of us to acheive the full potential of this amazing Red/Canon combination. Birger has years of experience contolling these lenses and he has developed a system solution customized to the Red One that is proven and is ready now. We have an opportunity here to move forward now, with no more delays, and with the true expert in this arena.
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Yes, Yes and yes.... GO BIRGER!
 
I sort of get this feeling like there's some nepotism between Red and Element Technica.

Birger appears to be the abused underdog in this whole scenario. They'll get my support for that reason, as well as because I trust their electronic skills more than the potential competition.
 
Lowkus said:
I sort of get this feeling like there's some nepotism between Red and Element Technica.

Birger appears to be the abused underdog in this whole scenario. They'll get my support for that reason, as well as because I trust their electronic skills more than the potential competition.
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Not exactly sure why you feel this way... we are working with Birger to get this right.

Element is a great company also that has proven to make great stuff.

We support all that support RED.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Not exactly sure why you feel this way... we are working with Birger to get this right.

Element is a great company also that has proven to make great stuff.

We support all that support RED.

Jim
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Just a gut feeling arrived at by piecing together lots of bits and pieces from posts, which my conscious mind hasn't put together yet. Hopefully I'll be wrong.
 
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