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Canon EOS 5D Mark II: 21MP and HD movies

30p = Useless for normal filmmaking.

But...

30P = Useful for anything else (ie. web video, home movies, visual effects[?], etc.)

Not too happy with the D90 but if it's the only game in town as far as 24p DSLRs go, might have to give in. Photokina is coming up, maybe they'll release a higher-end model with 1080p 24p? Probably not, but one can hope.
 
HD and SD Video Capture
Canon has taken its expertise in imaging, photography and video capture technology to a new level with the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR. Answering the question of where SLR technology is going next, the EOS 5D Mark II features 16:9 Full HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels and 30 fps as well as 4:3 standard TV quality (SD) video capture at 640 x 480 pixels and 30 fps, both capabilities appearing for the first time in a Canon SLR camera. Video capture is part of the camera's Live View function, using the Picture Style that has been set for Live View still image shooting. This allows skilled photographers and cinematographers to adjust image sharpness, contrast, color saturation and white balance, and have those settings apply to the movie image. When recording video, the camera's rear LCD screen can be letter-boxed by a semi-transparent border to match the aspect ratio of the movie recording size. Moreover, the EOS 5D Mark II camera's HD video capability enables new levels of creative expression through its unfettered access to the complete line of more than 60 Canon EF lenses, which provide an incredible variety of visual effects including everything from ultra-wide-angle and fish-eye to macro and super-telephoto, including many large-aperture L-series professional lenses that can keep the main subject in razor-sharp focus while blurring the background beyond recognition.

The EOS 5D Mark II will record video up to 4GB per clip or a maximum continuous movie capture time of 29 minutes and 59 seconds, whichever comes first. Depending on the level of detail in the scene, a 4GB memory card can record approximately 12 minutes of video at full HD resolution or approximately 24 minutes in standard definition.i Video clips are recorded in .MOV format using an MPEG-4 video compression and sound is recorded using linear PCMii without compression. The new camera features an input terminal for external stereo microphones as well as a built-in monaural microphone for convenience. To help show off those fantastic movies as well as still photos, the EOS 5D Mark II camera includes an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) output to display crisp, clear images on a High-Definition TV.


http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1221624119.html
 
LilRed said:
Happy days! :gun:

~S

ps. I'm sure a Kona 3 would fix the 30->24p "problem".
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Not really. 30p does NOT convert to 24p well. I recently had to deal with this on a concert DVD I shot in 30P on XDCAM HD...and then later they decided they wanted to do a theatrical promotion of the DVD, which required a 23.98 DCP master.

Not even a Terenex does it. 30i to 24p, yes, but not 30p.

In the end Compressor of all things gave the best results with its motion compensated framerate conversion, more or less morphing frames. Took 50 hours for an 80 minute concert.
 
Is it really locked to 30fps? That's a pity, as it's recording H.264 at a pretty high datarate - 38.6 Mbps.

If the rolling shutter isn't awful and they are actually reading off the whole sensor and downsampling properly (two big ifs...) that could beat HDV cameras by a serious margin - eg HDV is not as efficient a codec and only 25Mbps or less...

Anyway, that bodes well for NAB 2009 - Canon will surely be releasing some great solid-state recording cameras then - and hopefully with competitive datarates and compression schemes to their still cameras, right?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I would imagine that it is a crop and not a whole sensor. Can't wait to see what red brings to the table .
Aloha
-A
 
I'm pretty neutral regarding the whole brand competition, but I gotta say that I'm still not convinced by these new cameras by Nikon and Canon. Now Red is a company that has emerged with a very clear aim and public...professional film equipment. They are taking technology that was used on their digital film projects and putting it on a photo camera, NOT the other way around, like Canon and Nikon. This is a good thing for film people. Nikon and Canon came up with cameras that are for photographers and as a BIG bonus added the ability of shooting hd video. This is very different from what Red is doing. So, forgive me if I just buy a micro four thirds or a canon g10 while I wait for what Red has to offer.
 
If it's h.264, then it's also 8bit i think.
 
NOT the other way around, like Canon and Nikon.
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Not so sure about this. Canon has major knowledge in video and color treatment. More than RED. They have their stuff ready, sometimes it glances through, even in consumerproducts like a HV20. My problem with them is they only release it if someone other does first.
 
Very exciting. I guess this is the way of cams in the future. Hires still camera and hires film camera. Scarlet is right on target. Jim better hold on his hat, soon he sell more cameras than anyone. :)
 
muroshi said:
Not so sure about this. Canon has major knowledge in video and color treatment. More than RED. They have their stuff ready, sometimes it glances through, even in consumerproducts like a HV20. My problem with them is they only release it if someone other does first.
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True, but what I'm trying to say is that Canon (and nikon) is still launching cameras (EOS 5D Mark II) that are aimed at photographers. It is clear that the hd video is just a bonus, whilst the camera is still aimed at photographers. What I mean is that Red is taking a different approach, having in mind how important video is for the film making community. I would assume it's fair to say that what Red is proposing is a brand new hybrid product that will probably try to make both crowds happy.
 
NateWeaver said:
Not really. 30p does NOT convert to 24p well. I recently had to deal with this on a concert DVD I shot in 30P on XDCAM HD...and then later they decided they wanted to do a theatrical promotion of the DVD, which required a 23.98 DCP master.

Not even a Terenex does it. 30i to 24p, yes, but not 30p.

In the end Compressor of all things gave the best results with its motion compensated framerate conversion, more or less morphing frames. Took 50 hours for an 80 minute concert.
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Not many people know this, but the motion compensated resampling stuff in Compressor comes directly from Apple Shake. It's the very same algorithm.
 
Well! been waiting for long times, I been talking with Paul Carpenter ASC last month in Shanghai while for the American Airline TVC shooting, he told me the new 5D will on the market about Sept, right now it be come true!
I gonna buy one soon...
 
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