Canon 8-15mm Fisheye

[martinnoweck]

I recently used the Canon 8-15mm Fisheye (f4) on our Dragon for a concert shoot and and liked the image i got.
just wondering if there is an f2.8 version of the canon and / or how it compares to the tokina 11-16mm?

best wishes and kind regards,
martin

 

[Michael Hastings]

I recently used the Canon 8-15mm Fisheye (f4) on our Dragon for a concert shoot and and liked the image i got.
just wondering if there is an f2.8 version of the canon and / or how it compares to the tokina 11-16mm?

best wishes and kind regards,
martin

They are completely different lenses. Canon covers full frame and is a fisheye, much wider but fisheye distorted.

Tokina 11-16 is an ape-c (S35) lens and won't cover full frame but is rectilinear.


Basically to get an extra stop (i.e. f4 to 2.8) you have to double the size of the first lens, or reduce the size of the image circle. The image circle of APS-C or S35 that the tokina is designed to cover is only 60% of the size of full frame so it is easier to make an f2.8 lens that isn't huge. The new canon 11-24L that covers full frame is F4 and still is significantly larger than the Tokina 11-16 for aps-c. Wider angle makes it harder as well. For full frame lenses at 2.8 you normally have to go to a 14mm.

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[martinnoweck]

thanks michael.

does the tokina 11-16 cover 6k FF?
best wishes,
martin

 

[jussi rovanpera]

I did read that the Tokina covers FF @ 16mm, but not at the wide end, but I haven't tested it myself. And this is normal FF 36x24, not the "Weapon FF".

 

[Michael Hastings]

thanks michael.

does the tokina 11-16 cover 6k FF?
best wishes,
martin

I believe the tokina 11-16 covers dragon 6K at 13 or 14mm.

 

[Nick Morrison]

I believe the tokina 11-16 covers dragon 6K at 13 or 14mm.

Sounds about right. Was playing with it this week, seeing similar results....

 

[scott devitte]

8-15 will be amazing on 8k Weapon.

 

[Maik Müller]

8-15 fisheye, interesting to hear you liked it for that scenario. Can you post some stills? I'm having a hard time to see some usage in fisheyes and never saw some samples of that 8-15 on a Dragon.

As for going wide on FF there is that awesome new 11-24L, but it's F4 too. Tokina has a replacement for that 11-16 now, its the 11-20/2.8 and if a prime is an option, there is that incredible Zeiss 15mm/2.8. None of them is a fisheye.

Sigma has a 10mm/2.8 fisheye prime, but it's APS-C. I don't think it covers 6kFF. They do also have a 15mm/2.8 fisheye for F35. Both aren't their best lenses, but those are the options.

 

[Robert Gustafsson]

8-15 fisheye, interesting to hear you liked it for that scenario. Can you post some stills? I'm having a hard time to see some usage in fisheyes and never saw some samples of that 8-15 on a Dragon.

The 8-15 works pretty good in harsh environments for fast action shots that could benefit of the "fisheye-effect". I recently shot some snowboarding in the Arctic Circle (Riksgransen) and used the 8-15 on a few 6K shots with my Epic Dragon with LLO. I know that the 8-15 is also pretty common in both skateboarding as well as other action sports.

 

[martinnoweck]

thanks for all your input. will take the dragon to a dealer on wednesday and double-check ;-)

Maik - here is Snapshot - we shot 4k HD with the zoom set to 8mm. no grade, bad jpeg-compression.

best wishes and kind regards,
martin

 

[Maik Müller]

Thanks for the images Robert and Martin.
Indeed on those shots the fisheye-effekt works really nicely, cool stuff!

 

[martinnoweck]

I will check the Tokina 11-16mm and the Wallimex 14mm tomorrow - might drop the canon 8-15mm, because it is more a special interest lens (to rent when needed).
any thoughts about the wallimex?

best wishes and kind regards,
martin

 

[Maik Müller]

I will check the Tokina 11-16mm and the Wallimex 14mm tomorrow - might drop the canon 8-15mm, because it is more a special interest lens (to rent when needed).
any thoughts about the wallimex?

The 14mm distorts like hell.

 

[martinnoweck]

I checked both of them, probably would go with the 11-16 but then the vendor told me about the upcoming tokina 11-20mm 2.8 - any hands-on experience yet?

best wishes and kind regards,
martin