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Caltech sues Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Nikon, etc.

Patent litigation is the slippery slope that pro bono lawyers live off of. Sure took them an awful long time to notice CCDs and CMOS chips being used for what years now by those companies?

Noah
 
NoahK said:
Patent litigation is the slippery slope that pro bono lawyers live off of. Sure took them an awful long time to notice CCDs and CMOS chips being used for what years now by those companies?

Noah
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They are now doing some new things that appear to infringe on Caltech's patents?

The Japanese are quick to protect their proprietary rights... seems only fair that Caltech has the same right?

Jim
 
I wonder, it seems like a pretty broad lawsuit and pretty late in the day if we're talking about patents dating back to 1999:

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/business/ci_10772109

The Caltech lawsuit alleges that the technology is included in nearly 70 commercial products, including cameras such as the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT; the Nikon D300; Olympus E-3; Panasonic Lumix DMC-L10; and the Sony DSLR-A700.
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I can't think of anything those cameras have in common other than using a sensor to digitally capture images, some of them are cameras with movie modes, others not. They even mention cell phones and sensors on a chip. I'd suspect if a settlement is actually reached that is favorable to CalTech, *any* company making digital cameras could potentially be enjoined to it and pay some sort of licensing fee, including RED- no?

BTW- here's the actual lawsuit if anyone cares to read more:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/10/17/CalITCameras.pdf

Noah
 
Patents included are:

1. U.S. Patent Number 5,990,506, titled Active Pixel Sensors with Substantially Planarized Color Filtering Elements;
2. U.S. Patent Number 6,456,326, titled Single Chip Camera Having Double Sampling Operation;
3. U.S. Patent Number 6,549,235, titled Single Substrate Camera Device with CMOS Image Sensor;
4. U.S. Patent Number 6,555,842, titled Active Pixel Sensor with Intra-pixel Charge Transfer;
5. U.S. Patent Number 6,570,617, titled CMOS Active Pixel Sensor Type Imaging System on a Chip;
6. U.S. Patent Number 6,744,068, titled Active Pixel Sensor with Intra-pixel Charge Transfer.
 
Patents are evil. They should be outlawed, worldwide.
 
Lowkus said:
Patents are evil. They should be outlawed, worldwide.
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China does not respect patents and rapes intellectual property left, right and centre. Do you find those being ripped off evil? Why?

Patent's are like copyrights, except they protect innovations instead of arts. I would prefer patents to be obtainable at a lower cost, like copyrights, so that small companies and individuals could also protect their innovation and research.
 
Pawel Achtel said:
China does not respect patents and rapes intellectual property left, right and centre. Do you find those being ripped off evil? Why?

Patent's are like copyrights, except they protect innovations instead of arts. I would prefer patents to be obtainable at a lower cost, like copyrights, so that small companies and individuals could also protect their innovation and research.
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Dont know - I see the arguments from each side.
As with anything in life it just depends on which side of the fence your on...neither is 'right' or 'wrong' per say.

I would tend to say that patents, copyrights, etc. stifle innovation.
Instead of collaboration in the world we have competition.
Yes, I know, I was raised and taught that competition drives things forward...I suppose egoically trying to up one the other it does.

But in another world, I suppose, where fear were not as prominent, and the enjoyment of life was more the name of the game, I could see people coming together to help each other out.

Maybe that is what open source is about? Who knows, maybe this works.

True the way the world is structured now, many would at the upfront appear to loose their 'status' in the world circuit, so to speak...a blow to the ego, nothing more...but over all, we all could begin to enjoy what it is we are doing here and now. ;)

All things are as they are, and it would appear mass opinion, consciousness, dictates what we see in the world around us. (politics, social, religious, etc.)

Peace

dAlen
 
To say patents are evil is wrong. But there are good patents (as in genuinely new useful inventions that show a creative leap) and bad patents (overly broad, not new, not inventive, not creative). To lump them all in with the same load is not right. High quality patents are not a problem.

Graeme
 
dalen7 said:
Dont know - I see the arguments from each side.
As with anything in life it just depends on which side of the fence your on...neither is 'right' or 'wrong' per say.

I would tend to say that patents, copyrights, etc. stifle innovation.
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What do you mean neither right or wrong ?



IT IS WRONG !

Ask Mr. Jannard how he felt when he found out that RED ONE was reverse engineered in China...or what he would do if you use 'RED something' as your brand, website, etc
 
You have to remember that it is in the interest of a patent owner to offer a competitive product containing the innovation or/and, like in case of small inventors and universities, license the innovation to others at an affordable cost. Otherwise, what is the point of the patent?
 
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