Calibrating Display on Red Rocket DVI

[Joe Kocsis]

How are people calibrating their displays which are connected to the Red Rocket DVI out?
For instanace a Apple Cinema Display? Or I am going to need to invest in a real broadcast display to get calibrate output?

 

[Tony Lorentzen]

Would like to know that too.

 

[Johnny Friday]

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I use the Spyder Elite Pro set up for Rec. 709 at 2.2 Gamma and 6500K for my Dreamcolor Monitor. It matched with Deluxe perfectly.
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Anyway, would ask you Ryan, what Luminence level do you seem to be using in order not to over or undersaturate your images while correcting. I believe standard on the Dreamcolor is 120, but seems too dark.

Or does anyone using this monitor have a ref. luminence level?

 

[Uli Plank]

We are using the Dreamcolor as well, calibrated with the X-Rite based set from HP. We have set it to 150 and that works quite well for us (we gave a room with neutral gray walls and D65 lighting). The Apple Cinema Display is not really useful for judging colors, and the Dreamcolor is an excellent low-price solution.

 

[Rainer Fritz]

The CG245 von EIZO has a built in probe and is also a real 10bit panel... great monitor as well...
for REC709 we use a broadcast calibrated monitor... at the moment the new JVC models has a very good price point at a very good quality...

 

[Joe Kocsis]

Guess I was hoping for a calibrating solution like the MXO to be built in.. Or that somehow I could use my MXO and cinema display.. but it looks like a calibratable color accurate monitor is the only way to get it done.. I dont consider a $2k monitor a low priced solution, but I realize it may be the lowest priced solution..

Thanks for all the replies..

 

[Johnny Friday]

Guess I was hoping for a calibrating solution like the MXO to be built in.. Or that somehow I could use my MXO and cinema display.. but it looks like a calibratable color accurate monitor is the only way to get it done.. I dont consider a $2k monitor a low priced solution, but I realize it may be the lowest priced solution..

Thanks for all the replies..

Here is a pretty good solution that i use:

I go out of my Red rocket card dual hdsdi to an AJA converter which then goes HDMI out to my dreamcolor to give me access to 10bit grading on my Dreamcolor --- transcoded to prores 422HQ with chroma enabled

Then with the Prores transcodes in FCP i use Matrox MXO2 with a panasonic Plamsa 42" monitor---you can calibrate with MXO2 pretty darned good. Good enough in my case anyway. Then work in 10bit color via FCP and/or Color. That's a pretty reasonable solution. If you get MAX, then transcodes to h264 are lightning fast.

 

[Joe Kocsis]

Any way to get color bars out of the RED ROCKET outputs?
Bars into Redcine-X?
an R3D Color Bars for download somewhere?

 

[Johnny Friday]

Any way to get color bars out of the RED ROCKET outputs?
Bars into Redcine-X?
an R3D Color Bars for download somewhere?

NOPE....if you are referring to MXO2, can't do. Nor will color bars help unless you have a proper color correction monitor anyway.....i'm assuming your trying to work with an affordable solution anyway.

 

[Joe Kocsis]

yep I know I need a proper monitor. Just seems that any tool that's used for color grading should be able to output bars to verify the calibration of what your looking at..
For the moment Im curious to see how far off my desktop displays are when Im not monitoring off the Rocket.. They've been calibrated with a Sypder3, but I cant say for sure how close that's gonna get them...

 

[Uli Plank]

A hardware calibration with a good colorimeter like the x-Rite is far better than any color bars plus eyeballing…
Plus, you can't calibrate a RR like you do with the software calibration in a computer graphics display – which is not recommended for serious work anyway. It is just loading a LUT which will further reduce the already limited number of colors on a ACD. 10 Bit out from the RR with a calibrated Dreamcolor is far better, you'll actually see any banding when you induce it while grading instead of never being sure if it's the display only.
BTW, only feed RGB to the Dreamcolor (the AJA HDP2 can convert YUV to RGB), since it will switch off it's calibration when fed YUV.

 

[Ryan McGregor]

This message was posted by Ryan McGregor, but seems now not to be here:

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I use the Spyder Elite Pro set up for Rec. 709 at 2.2 Gamma and 6500K for my Dreamcolor Monitor. It matched with Deluxe perfectly.
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Anyway, would ask you Ryan, what Luminence level do you seem to be using in order not to over or undersaturate your images while correcting. I believe standard on the Dreamcolor is 120, but seems too dark.

Or does anyone using this monitor have a ref. luminence level?

Hey Johnny,
I deleted my post because after writing it I realized the thread is about monitoring out of the RedRocket, but I am just monitoring out of my MacPro's graphics card. I have my Dreamcolor set to 130 cd and judge my exposure and black levels by eye, while also looking at my histogram in RedCineX as a reference if needed.