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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Build 15 & 16 news...

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What if the monitor supports 1280x1024, will HDMI work still? or does the monitor specifically have to support 1280x848?

Yes, that should work fine - but test, some very cheap P.C monitors won't...


Stuart,

as both HDMI, HD-SDI and EVF share the same signal source:

Is it technically possible for you guys to pattern the signal alternatively 1:1 on a larger output signal path for HD-SDI, solving many problems at once?

Imagine the following:

Signal internally 1280x848y

EVF -> Full internal signal
HDMI -> Full internal signal
HD-SDI -> 720p center-cropped (is that so much witch work?)
HD-SDI -> 1080p centered (black frame around) at full 1280x848y including menu area.

On most sets I have a 1920x1200y screen with me anyway, sometimes at least a 1600x1200y. So we use either the HDMI to DVI converter cable and go straight into the monitor, or we use a BMD HD Link to convert from HD-SDI to DVI and go from there...

Just a thought.

One more question:

What about a native 1:1 pixel zoom for focussing?
The current double zoom isn't always helpful and the 1:1 zoom would be much clearer to judge from. Maybe you can have a quick deBayer running native on just the zoom window resolution, it must not be perfect, just for adjustment.

We could cycle the zoom modes with the "2" key, or preset the preferred zoom in a menu.


Cheers,
Axel
 
I hear Deanan has been writing code while he is in the shower ...

Thats absolutely normal for coders. You do it in the brain, like playing chess without a board. Best times in shower, on toilet or other really relaxing moments (ehemm...) :)

Studied computer science myself, so I know that from ground up since I was 12 or so...

Coders do it even when the dream!

Cheers,
Axel

PS: Got me a while to get rid of the syndrom. Now I am awake day and night to read the RED forum to not get reminded off this anymore.
 
I am curious about something: I think it's nice that build 15 will be out in a few days, but what about 16?

I am wondering if we will see build 16 before NAB.

Can I get an answer to this please? I am assuming we will since NAB is over a month away.

Jay
 
Thats absolutely normal for coders. You do it in the brain, like playing chess without a board. Best times in shower, on toilet or other really relaxing moments (ehemm...) :)

Studied computer science myself, so I know that from ground up since I was 12 or so...

Coders do it even when the dream!

Cheers,
Axel

PS: Got me a while to get rid of the syndrom. Now I am awake day and night to read the RED forum to not get reminded off this anymore.

Well ... I actually head that Jarred built him a panel that opens in his shower with a waterproof keyboard.
 
Build 16 presentation at NAB for sure.

It could be the first Jokers Card for RED at NAB 2008.
 
Holding off build 16 until NAB is one hell of a delay. And personally I think it would have more clout if it were the USERS talking about how wonderful build 16 is rather than just RED.
Jay
 
We're not holding off a build until NAB. Build 16 will get released as soon as it's ready.
 
What about a native 1:1 pixel zoom for focussing?
The current double zoom isn't always helpful and the 1:1 zoom would be much clearer to judge from. Maybe you can have a quick deBayer running native on just the zoom window resolution, it must not be perfect, just for adjustment.

We could cycle the zoom modes with the "2" key, or preset the preferred zoom in a menu.

Okay, how about this -- how about no deBayer at all? A black and white 1280x720 patch ripped straight from the chip and put out pixel-for-pixel on the HD-SDI display? In black 'n' white. That would rock. Especially if you could mix in a "focus in red" feature, so the only thing that shows up in color at all is high-frequency detail.
 
Okay, how about this -- how about no deBayer at all? A black and white 1280x720 patch ripped straight from the chip and put out pixel-for-pixel on the HD-SDI display? In black 'n' white. That would rock. Especially if you could mix in a "focus in red" feature, so the only thing that shows up in color at all is high-frequency detail.

sounds awesome
 
I am curious about something: I think it's nice that build 15 will be out in a few days, but what about 16?

I am wondering if we will see build 16 before NAB.

Can I get an answer to this please? I am assuming we will since NAB is over a month away.

Jay

Our goal (you know how that goes) is Build 16 in 3 weeks or so. Plenty of time before NAB.

Jim
 
Okay, how about this -- how about no deBayer at all? A black and white 1280x720 patch ripped straight from the chip and put out pixel-for-pixel on the HD-SDI display? In black 'n' white. That would rock. Especially if you could mix in a "focus in red" feature, so the only thing that shows up in color at all is high-frequency detail.

I think I already subscribe to this idea :)

G
 
Yeah... I know how that is.

"Always late but worth the wait" Right?

Jim will you be at NAB? I'd like the chance to meet you face to face.

:)

Jay

Absolutely... wouldn't miss this one for anything. Look forward to meeting you.

Jim
 
Lion Around

Lion Around

Jim

I know how you like wildlife.. So I thought I would share this shot from my RED with you. It was shot using a 500mm mirror lens.

I felt it was best to keep a "respectful distance"

Sorry I have not shared more, but I am ashamed to say most of my RED's work has been "online corporate" I'd be happy to show it to you if you want.. But it is what it is.

Jay
 
Daamit Jay...you beat me to it with the theme.
Nice one, though. :-)
 
I have a wish for build 16:
Measuring right the signal. So the signal what is shown on the outputs is not what you really recording, I know. White is clipping before it does on the recorded image and so on. But will there a possibility to get a measure result via luma histogram or waveform monitor which show me the reality or at least very close the reality? And if its possible in a bigger window, specially over the monitoring outputs switchable... ?

Storing of Setups... on SD Card for example would be also nice...

regards
rainer
 
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