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Broken Red One Battery

Daniel Soderberg

Daniel Soderberg

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I dropped my Red One battery from waist high, on a carpet floor, and now it's dead...

Any hints on what to try to get it working again?

Should I just send it in for repair? Anyone know how much this might cost?

Thanks,
Daniel
 
wow weird. I've dropped them from higher up onto concrete and it worked fine
 
I may know what's wrong with it, but it's not repairable unless you take the whole battery apart. The redbricks are great but very prone to die if you drop them. The battery cells are fine but the way they're assembled is just not very optimal. Remember - these are not just batteries; they are sensitive electronic devices and should be treated as such.
 
You should be aware of the disclaimer in the red store for the batteries:

"Please note that applicable laws prohibit the shipping of batteries that are physically damaged."
 
Thanks for the info guys.

The indicators do light up and the drop didn't even do anything to the casing.

Does red repair batteries? Anyone had this done, or know how much it would cost?

Tony Rudenko said:
Could try taking it to a Batteries+. Do you see any of the indicators light up? Hopefully the impact just dislodged one of the solder connections on one of the cells...
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I dropped a battery exactly like Daniel onto carpet from off a chair. It landed right on the RED logo button and that was the end of the battery. I took it in to RED Europe and they took it apart and took a look. However, they said it was beyond economic repair and that was that. I think that because of the fire risk with damaged cells, they would have to completely re-cell the battery. RED do not do that themselves and so the costs would rapidly escalate. Maybe someday someone will re-cell these batteries, but Lithium battery technology is complicated and you need to know what you are doing or you could cause a nasty and expensive problem. Gone are the days when I used to re-cell my Arri SR NiCad cells myself.
 
Try dropping it a second time. Should the trick. :)

Daniel Soderberg said:
I dropped my Red One battery from waist high, on a carpet floor, and now it's dead...

Any hints on what to try to get it working again?

Should I just send it in for repair? Anyone know how much this might cost?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Damaged batteries are a real hazard. DO NOT STORE THEM INDOORS!!!!!!!! If you do, keep them in a fireproof box. If I were you, I would just bite the bullet and buy a new one.
 
Hello All

I repair Video camera batteries, have done over 800 Li-Ion packs, the majority being the Anton Bauer Dionics, the rest being IDX, Sony, Frezzi, Varizoom and an assortment of Chinese knockoff.
Been looking to get hold of a Red brick to evaluate and do a test repair on it.

If anyone has a bad one laying around and wants to send it to me I will do a couple for free to get some feedback on the results.

You can contact me at 954-557-9765, Email siebold35@hotmail.com, website: www.ritterbattery.com
 
Update:

So far I have received 3 Red battery packs, 2 - 9.4AH & 1 - 10.4AH

Interestingly; all 3 packs use the same control board but 3 different manufacturer's cells: Sanyo, LG Chem, Samsung and 3 cell ratings: 2200, 2250, 2600

Also all 3 had either a pinched wire (manufacturer process) or a broken wire to the control board.
All of them were a simple repair, but resetting the on board EPROM requires that the balance leads be disconnected from the control board.

The longest part is, the time required to test the packs as discharge time varies from 2 hours to 5 hours and recharge is about 3-4 hours.

So I can say that the RED battery packs are repairable and can be Re-Celled, I will post the users experience after I send them back, still want to do a couple of rounds of cycle testing.

All 3 packs tested out at 70% or better of original capacity (I only tested to 5 amp load or 70 watts nominal)

Regards John Ritter
www.ritterbattery.com
 
New Update:

Well so far the count is, 8 Red Brick batteries that I have seen. (9.4 & 10.4AH)

All were completely repairable, minor broken wiring issue's, I have returned the last 3 today and I await
feedback on the results.

So Yes the RED Battery is fully repairable and can be Re-Celled.

It seems to be a common problem after the first batch to cross my workbench, this kind of repair and test service will run about $50.00
including the return shipping (CONUSA only international would be additional).

If a full cell bank replacement is required (RE-Cell) this would run $240.00 per pack (Re-Cell would be to 10.4AH).

Regards John Ritter
www.ritterbattery.com
 
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