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"Blu-Ray has five years left" - Samsung

Lets just remember one thing: Blu-ray has as of yet NOT had a single christmas shopping season by itself where it isn't competing against another format (HD-DVD). Also the final specifications hasn't been available until very recently. Even despite of this it has done well enough. Sure, it isn't selling like Sony thought it would, but that's like asking a mother if her kid is special. Just watch this holiday shopping season. Oh, and Mitch, if you are referring to THIS article from the New York Times, I wouldn't read too much into it (that's the only recent article I could find from the NYT that is doomsy about Blu-ray's future). They have been known to be not too up to the minute and/or thorough on technology. For example, here is another article from that same week from enadget HD that completely contradicts the NYT:

Shocker: Blu-ray sales way up year-over-year

So go figure.
 
Thanks Haakon...i knew it...someone would help me
Very helpfull .
Thank You again!!!
I will try it as you sad...exactly as you sad.

Regards
 
there is a red laser disc out there....that has the same capacaties as blue ray
it's multiple layers(like 15 or so)
origionally I thought this is what red-ray was going to use
http://www.nmeinc.com/

the beauty of it is the components are all standard red laser components....
inexpensive to make and the market is full of them
right now with blu ray only 3 or 4 companies in the world manufacture the blue lasers and as of 2007 Nichia Corp of Japan was the sole supplier. This was the reason for the delay of PS3

the red disc technology would solve all the supply and demand problems
 
Blu-ray will probably be pretty standard on any 2010 computer.

With ~75$ price difference in 2010, would any reader of this forum prefer to buy a DVD-NTSC player instead of a blu-ray player?

We deliver red overnight dailies on blu-ray. If customers dont have a player, they usually rent a Sony PS3 for ~5 bucks a day at the next videostore.

When DPs or Directors want a copy of their work, we offer them HDCAM, HDCAM SR, Digital Betacam, DVD or blu-ray. Blu-ray seems to become the preferred choice.
 
laguun said:
Blu-ray will probably be pretty standard on any 2010 computer.
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I find it really surprising that it is not standard already. They say that the blue lasers cost many times more than the red lasers in normal DVD drives, but the laser in a DVD drive costs less than $1 when you add up the total manufacturing cost of a drive. Even if the magical blue lasers cost ten times as much, they would be a 10 dollar component. Big deal. Add 9 bucks to the price of the drive and call it a day.

I think blu-ray will gain acceptance once they get rid of the "new and exotic" fees that are built into the prices of the drives. Remember when CD players cost over a thousand bucks?

They had better hurry. They only have 4.97 years left before blu-ray is obsolete.
 
CrewPix.com said:
I find it really surprising that it is not standard already. They say that the blue lasers cost many times more than the red lasers in normal DVD drives, but the laser in a DVD drive costs less than $1 when you add up the total manufacturing cost of a drive. Even if the magical blue lasers cost ten times as much, they would be a 10 dollar component. Big deal. Add 9 bucks to the price of the drive and call it a day.
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It's a little more complicated than that. What about building the infrastructure that creates the lasers? Not only that, I'm sure that there aren't many places that manufacture the diodes to begin with, which creates scarcity. Add to that the R&D of the format in general, the cost of all the back room deals made to ensure that format's victory, the cost of advertising the format itself, plus the need to generate revenue in general and it's no surprise that the format is as expensive as it is. Mind you, the PS2 wasn't much less expensive than the low end PS3 is now, and look at how the prices of DVD players took a nosedive between 2000 and 2005. I'm sure that it'll all get worked out in due course.
 
Blu-ray will hit big when the players drop to the sub $200 range, and your average movie can be bought from one of the retail super-stores for $14 - $19.

Its going to be a while before Blu-ray gets pushed out...but when it happens its not going to be holographic discs, and probably not hard drives either. I read earlier in the post that someone was complaining about delicate HD's with moving parts, but solid state drives have no moving parts, and are a lot faster...Yes, they could work for movie storage and playback, but its going to be a WHILE before you see a terabyte drive in Best Buy for $250 bucks. And with the huge price for space, paired with the growing trend in higher video resolutions, that medium doesn't seem practical either.

I think if BR gets pushed out, it wont be for at least 5 - 10 years, and when it happens its gonna go to internet based videos. The whole concept is still technically not completely possible because of bandwidth restrictions but "in the cloud" could be the future. Every movie/album/show you watch is stored on some server somewhere and you just stream it down. You record footage, and upload your own stuff up there like family videos, and send it to friends/family...and stream it down...its the future!
 
I truly believe video will move to the network and to harddisks / SSDs. Look at what has happened to music. Is there any reason to think the same won't happen to video? Yes, it requires a bit more resources from the playback device, but that's nothing in the long run. I imagine there is a reason why iTunes now lets you buy HD material.
 
xdozex said:
Blu-ray will hit big when the players drop to the sub $200 range, and your average movie can be bought from one of the retail super-stores for $14 - $19.
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This is why pricing Blurays so high right now is utterly stupid, IMO.

One808, I think you are very correct.
 
Tom said:
One808, I think you are very correct.
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Thank you. Of course, working for a major vendor of networking equipment means I also have a vested interest in seeing video move onto the network. ;-)
 
Blu-ray has only five years? Ridiculous. In five years, there will be umpteen gazillion CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray discs in existence -- do you think people will be satisfied to let them rot and not be able to play them, especially since DRM is increasingly preventing archival on other media? No, the Blu-ray -- or an even higher-def but backward-compatible -- player will be the device to play them on. And, as with current DVD players, low-end models will cost less than $100.
 
No! I'm not satisfied to let my upteem gazillion collection rot! :ranting2:

Laser Disc! Laser Disc! Laser Disc! :whistling:



(for the record, never owned one)
 
Digital distribution seems to be the future. iTunes and Steam are leading the way.
 
xdozex said:
Blu-ray will hit big when the players drop to the sub $200 range, and your average movie can be bought from one of the retail super-stores for $14 - $19.
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That would be today. Best Buy has two players for less than $250 and a bunch of flicks for $19.99.
 
This seems like an obvious question that may have already been answered, but does anyone have any good speculation about why RED chose to use DVD media rather than BluRay for Redray? BluRay disks and burners are cheap, so why not reduce the compression artifacts? I doubt that 2 hours of 4k in 9GB is perfect.
 
TheThe said:
Well, it looks like Blu-Ray sales now account for 12% of all movie sales (in disc form anyway).

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/1...gh-def-market-share-for-week-ending-septembe/
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Notice that those articles always talk about BluRay in regards to 'overall disc sales." Meaning - it is 12% of 100% of the disc sales.

What they don't bother mentioning is that the number of overall movie disc sales are dropping. They dropped $600 million between 2006 and 2007, and are estimated to drop another $500 million by the end of 2008.

Blu Ray is definitely on its way out before it even gets settled in.
The future is in transferable digital content - not tangible media.

Regardless - people will follow content, not media.
 
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