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Birger Nikon Mount Update?

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Tim Morten

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Apologies if I missed this information in one of the other Birger threads, but now that the Canon mounts are out in the wild, is there an updated timeframe for the Birger Nikon mounts? I'm sure Erik is reluctant to set dates after his Canon experience, but there are a lot of Nikon users out here who would love to be Birger customers (and we're much nicer than those Canon people :)).

Cheers,
Tim
 
Same here...
 
We started back up with the Nikon program, and will announce a schedule at NAB/REDuser. Given the time elapsed, we are evaluating a new actuator for the iris lever. We are very excited (in an enginerd sort of a way) about this change.
 
Thanks for the reply - can't wait to hear more!

Cheers,
Tim

PS - Big congratulations on getting the Canon mount out the door!
 
Is the Nikonmount from RED really that bad, totally useless?

Stories of lenses that don't sit tightly or even fall right off...?
 
The Red Nikon mount has given me no problems after a year of use with a variety of lenses. The Birger would bring the benefit of electronic control (and facilitate remote control), so that is what drives my interest.

Cheers,
Tim
 
Good to hear Tim,

I heard they don't hold the lenses properly and allows the slrs to slide sideways so that the lenses turn as one focuses, but then I shall pray that is not the case.

Merci,

Fred
 
FredrikL said:
Good to hear Tim,

I heard they don't hold the lenses properly and allows the slrs to slide sideways so that the lenses turn as one focuses, but then I shall pray that is not the case.
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My experience is that it depends on the individual lens. The only lens I used with that problem is the Nikon AF 17-35mm. All my other lenses did not turn while focusing. Even still, I saw no visual shift when using the 17-35mm.

Overall the RED Nikon mount has been just fine.
 
Good to hear Joel...!

Is the new Underdahl - mount any better in this respect?
 
I have to say that the mount is poor. Any mount system that requires three little rubber things installed into it to have it seat properly is, in my opinion, poor.

The mount is very simple for the high cost and is a dumb mount. The nikon mount portion is cheap and not nearly as solid as what you would find on a regular Nikon body.

It's soft aluminum after market parts pieced together in a simple process.

Yes it lets you put Nikon glass on your RED, but I would hardly call it a piece of professional equipment.

I was one of those who paid a premium to get the mount directly from Doug before RED picked it up as the "official mount". It's nothing grand, overpriced but works as advertised.

David
 
Erik Widding said:
We started back up with the Nikon program, and will announce a schedule at NAB/REDuser. Given the time elapsed, we are evaluating a new actuator for the iris lever. We are very excited (in an enginerd sort of a way) about this change.
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Erik, will you start taking new pre-orders for the Nikon again? I'd love to get back in line once you announce a schedule.
 
canon or nikon ....

we have Nikon lens stuff .... today ...

timing ... always timing !!!

Erik can you give us an idea of the schedule ?

THANKS :)
 
The Nikon mount, when it was the original Underdahl mount, was cool. As a DIY kinda solution, hax0r etc, available before any other alternative mounts.

As the official RED Nikon mount it is too makeshifty, and not very impressive for $500.

I'm still wondering if the Action Products mount actually exists.
 
Erik Widding said:
We started back up with the Nikon program ... we are evaluating a new actuator for the iris lever. We are very excited (in an enginerd sort of a way) about this change.
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Would this mean smooth iris ramping. The one - and really the only one - down side to the birger canon mount is the 1/4 stop iris increments preventing smooth aperture control during a shot. To my understanding this is a mechanical limitation of canon lenses so perhaps the above references a solution via nikon. If this problem can indeed be solved then it makes the viability for narrative slr use even more of a prospect IMO.

One charm of the Birger mount is the ability to exchange the inner mount mechanism. Not sure if one could use the same collimation for both in order to really quick change the mount but certainly not more painful than the red nikon mount. Seems to me its technically feasible and would mean potentially relative quick changes between nikon, canon and may I suggest (hint, hint) PL. :thumbsup:
 
N_Villers said:
The one - and really the only one - down side to the birger canon mount is the 1/4 stop iris increments preventing smooth aperture control during a shot
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Let's wait for the Impero before deciding that. When controlling the mount via software you can tell the lens to go from f/1.4 to F8 and it's very fast and smooth. Using the buttons on the side of the mount is not smooth at all.
 
Joel Kaye said:
Let's wait for the Impero before deciding that.
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Guess you are right. It is true that the key to happiness is to keep expectations low. But personally for my own projects it would have to work half as well as I think it will before its not a no-brainer anymore.

I was able back in december to visit at birger and the craftsmanship and thought that went into this product sold me at least. My father worked on as engineer back in the 60s a lens controller system for nasa that was a progenitor of motor controlled lenses particularly how to interface serially using a system of coded instructions remotely. Its funny how full circle things go.
 
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