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Birger kits for Red One acceptable compatability

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Robert Knoll

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Hi Guys,

This thread is probably a repeat BUT I am wondering about the lay of the land now. Here is my question to the community:

I have a photographer in the department I manage and he is stocked with an excellent selection of Canon glass. I have an excellent selection of Red glass for my Red One. Yep, here it comes... I would like to get a Birger system to make use of his glass. Birger lists the Canon starter kit and the PL lens mount accessory and I would guess both should be acquired? What is holding me back is a few threads I read a while back about the Birger damaging the Red and also comments on running foul of the Red warranty. Yes/No? Second question, is it easy to go back and fourth with the system between manufacturers or is it opening up the camera all the time? Last question: I will need to return the favor so he wants to try the Red glass on his 5D and 7D. Is there an adaptor for this too?

Thanks guys for taking a read.

Cheers!
 
Currently any new installation of a Birger mount on a Red One camera will invalidate the camera warranty and void any upgrade deal you have to Epic-X / Scarlet if your camera is currently eligible for those early adopter discounts or trade ins.

If your camera is out of warranty and not eligible for deals, then there is nothing stopping you doing anything you like with the camera. But Red will not support any problems you may have as a result. There is a small possibility of damaging the camera if while installing or uninstalling the mount you accidentally pinch and short circuit the four wires used for the camera i/pin data connector. If you follow the Birger instructions carefully and have some reasonable technical ability and manual dexterity it's not hard. But if you are not confident in your abilities you should find someone who is, to do it for you. The backfocus collimation is fiddly and potentially time consuming - but once set can be left alone. Obviously you should be careful not to drop screws on the sensor OLPF.

Once the Birger rear mount is installed the front section can be interchanged relatively easily between Birger's Canon mount and Birger's PL mount (you may have to check backfocus again, although it shouldn't be far off). Note the Birger mount should not be still powered while doing any of this, or your Birger electronics may be damaged such that you get intermittent faulty behaviour which at worst means you Canon lenses will change iris or focus randomly and at the worst moments on the Red camera.

Having said that when it's correctly installed, it works pretty well, and saves a lot of money on cinema glass!

You can't mount Red glass on a 5D or 7D without drastic physical modifying of the camera - so no there is no adaptor.
 
Thanks for the info guys! Will the Red Focus still work with the Birger in PL mode?

Have a great day!
 
On the Canon APS-C sensor side you can use a PL adapter with many PL zooms as is, and RPP which have a replacement PL mount installed (which is slightly shorter.) We modded our RPP, I love using them on a 7D with the PL adapter. As I recall only the 85mm and 100mm RPP cover FF and there is falloff / sharpness loss in the corners.

Also shot Birger on the many jobs, on an approved Red, removed and re-installed the mount several times and never had a damage issue.

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Once again thanks for all the valuable input and your time. I will get to ordering as soon as I can.

Cheers!
 
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