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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

best external recording media?

We have no complaints with the Ki Pro. Its been very reliable.
 
Ninja is doing fine, but I don't like HDMI. Rather go Samurai.
 
Love my Pix240 .. SDI Red flag for recording.. Red file naming. XLR inputs and a great preamp. Also false colour and some other tools that make it worth the added cost. Only disadvantage is the size
 
+1000 for Sounddevices PIX.
Have 240 now for 6mo. Flawless, brilliantly thought out interface, nuke-proof quality from people who have been building broadcast/pro field recorders for years. And just like my scarlet, regular firmware updates give me a "new" recorder every few months.
Don't let "weight" comments throw you. Alloy chassis and world-class hardware for the Mean Streets. Amazing device for the price of a few RED SSDs.

Stu Aull
SX 199
PIX 240
 
The PIX is money well spent, I agree. As long as Atomos doesn't sort out the filenaming, workflow is far better with the PIX. Plus, you get two extra audio channels of very high quality, the Atomos' are only so-so.
 
Hello Everyone,

I have a ninja 1 but can't succeed to have a video feed when connected to the Scarlet. It's working fine with other cameras. Can someone help me?

Thanks!
 
HDMI-bridge will be always pain in the ass. It has really "amateur" protocol structure. Could stop receiving stream from camera, stop recording, ETC. HDMI recorder would be great as recorder for like Panasonic GH2 or any other DSLR'ish workflow.
For RED really reasonable to work SDI only. On Any box. Doesn't mean you will not make it work trough HDMI - sure you will just play with resolution settings in Scarlet monitor sections and

don't forget to re-start camera every time you do changes.

And again - PIX 240 is an entry level solution for professional workflow!
Yes it is $3K but worth every penny.

Samurai OK for proxy or daily, whatever you call it.
Not for actual master footage for the client.
Built on "consumer electronics" components basically - great product to have, no doubt.
Worth more than you pay for it, just don't count on it for too much :)
 
Ambroise Becchio said:
Hello Everyone,

I have a ninja 1 but can't succeed to have a video feed when connected to the Scarlet. It's working fine with other cameras. Can someone help me?

Thanks!
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I don't have NINJA but it may be looking for a 60i signal which is standard for HDMI. The Red camera doesn't do this signal as it spits out progressive only. I have the Samurai and it works flawlessly. It's small, and requires little power.
 
i am sure I'm missing something, but why would people want to shoot to external recorder? Because R3Ds are too large and too heavy for some systems?
but it's like saying 'cut my balls off, they are too heavy, i'm gonna be running much faster without them', doesn't everyone want to deliver every time to the very best of their ability? RAW was the main reason i wanted RED, and external recorders to my understanding were designed with the single purpose - get 4:2:2 10bit from 4:2:0 DSLRs and camcorders;
shoot 1080 prores on RED it's like smell the flower in the gas mask - you're missing the point.
but that's me :)
 
Paramon Ivanovich said:
i am sure I'm missing something, but why would people want to shoot to external recorder? Because R3Ds are too large and too heavy for some systems?
but it's like saying 'cut my balls off, they are too heavy, i'm gonna be running much faster without them', doesn't everyone want to deliver every time to the very best of their ability? RAW was the main reason i wanted RED, and external recorders to my understanding were designed with the single purpose - get 4:2:2 10bit from 4:2:0 DSLRs and camcorders;
shoot 1080 prores on RED it's like smell the flower in the gas mask - you're missing the point.
but that's me :)
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I like the assurance of having some sort of backup when shooting my RAW footage. I always shoot to both. In many cases, depending on the job, I can actually edit off the ProRes footage. On the clips requiring a deeper color correct or reframing, I go back to the RAW. The quality off the debayer off the HDSDI is excellent. There is the added bonus of enabling "Look Around" and you get a wider FOV because it's sampling off the full 5K sensor.

Finally, having the proRes Recorder, allows clients to review shots from the recorder rather than my camera. The Samurai allows the ability to mark favorites and set in/out points. Oh yes, before sound playback was enabled, the only way to hear sound on playback was through my recorder.

There is nothing wrong with having a client go ahead and begin edit on proxy files and relink later to R3D files. It actually makes them feel way better knowing they don't have to waste time waiting for a transcode. Of course, the ability to edit off the r3d's is here but surprisingly, many editors are not there yet.
 
The SoundDevices Pix240 is the BEST and most STABLE HD recorder on the market. Worth every penny and can double as an onboard monitor. If you're looking at something a bit less expensive the Convergent Design nanoFlash is your 2nd best option. The nano is very small, affordable, and extremely reliable. I don't think the nano will record automatically from a SDI flag out of the EPIC like the Pix will but otherwise it's hard to beat. The other HD recorders on the market are OK but I've had some reliability issues. Spend a bit more for the PIX...
 
I rented the Pix 240 for a weekend. I've also, for other reasons and with multiple types of input, used a Nanoflash and a Ki Pro, as well as a Ki Pro Mini. The Pix 240 smoked them. It had features I didn't even know that I wanted, and as soon as I saw them, thought "Oh man, that could be super useful".

The best part, is that it labels the .movs the same as the R3Ds, so editing, and then conforming to the R3D raws for grading, all without transcode time or a Red Rocket. And it really wasn't hard to set up, either.
 
I have the PIX 240 and am super happy with it. Great sound quality, great picture quality, easy user interface, built like a tank, affordable off-the-shelf media, ready-to-edit workflow. I got the '240 because I was a bit leery of being stuck with HDMI I/O only of the '220. The only challenge is how to mount it: it has connectors and knobs on 5 of its six sides. Great quality product; money well spent.

Ben
 
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