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Best Cine-Primes for RAVEN ?

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Hey guys,

Would love some advice on which cine-primes you would recommend purchasing with the RAVEN in mind? Iv shot a bit on the Canon CN-24 & 50 which seem amazing but if theres something out there better or you have experienced good results with please let me know :)

Shot

Steven
 
There's not too many options for Raven due to EF-Mount limitation. You tend to choose from Zeiss Compact Prime line, Sigma ART line in cinema-housing, Tokina, Schneider Xenon or XENAR III, Canon CN line, and among re-housed options as Veydra, Prime Circle, SLR Magic and others.

I'm not concidering any of Rokinon or Xeen as a valuable option.

Zeiss are claimed to have an ability to change the mount on the lens, which might be good if you're planning on upgrading to some PL-Mount camera later.

As of the price range - many aim at .CP2 pricing, so kinda the same. Only Schneider seem to be far more valuable in price, but i would never buy into it because it's not a PL-Mount - garbage for a rental in mind.
 
Sean R. Finnegan said:
Why don't you like the XEENs? I've shot with them a few times on some lower budget stuff and was pretty impressed.
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I like the bokeh, but wide open, it gets bad CA. For the price though, getting full Cine mechanics, they are pretty good.
 
Sean R. Finnegan said:
Why don't you like the XEENs? I've shot with them a few times on some lower budget stuff and was pretty impressed.
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I just don't like Rokinon glass at all. It performs poorly as a glass. As a Rokinon - they might be an option as a lens for <500$, but paying >2000$ for a decent housing and a crappy glass inside is insane.

It's exact same glass in original Rokinons and Xeens. Yes, they tweaked some things here and there, but if you watch side by side comparisons, lenses perform the same in terms of image geometry they produce. For me it's the Rokinons weak spot.
 
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I have 6x Carl Zeiss CP.2
18mm, 21mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm
Whats great about CP.2 is you can change the mounts to PL - or various other mounts so you will not be limited in the future if you upgrade.
Does Cape Town have a lens rental house?
I live in an area where there is no rental house so I regularly rent out my lenses with a PL mount but obviously change back to EF to use on the Raven.
The benefit of buying a PL mounted Lens is that it can be rented fairly easily as they tend to be less common than EF mounted lenses.
I also have a Contax Zeiss 28 - 85 zoom that I have put a Leitax EF mount on. A modest priced lens that has a great range and that classic Zeiss look.
I also have 80-200 mm Contax Zeiss zoom.
cheers Richard
 
I'm a big Angeniuex fan and some of their new DP series of zooms have EF mounts I believe. Definitely a higher price-point but I LOVE that glass.

WHOOPS, you said primes, my bad. I would take the CNE's over CP2's, but that's a matter of personal taste. Not a fan of the XEEN's, still have to check out the Tokina primes. Those might be interesting to look at if they make them in EF (which I think they do).
 
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I'm really liking the Sigma Art Lenses. I had to go a little cheaper after the big Scarlet purchase and I was steered toward the Sigma. Very nice. I have the 50 and the 85. I'm also a Leica guy, so my next task is to get Leica glass on this camera.
 
Tokina review: http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/04/27/tokina-cinema-vista-primes-25mm-18mm-nab-2017/



Brendan_H_Banks said:
I'm a big Angeniuex fan and some of their new DP series of zooms have EF mounts I believe. Definitely a higher price-point but I LOVE that glass.

WHOOPS, you said primes, my bad. I would take the CNE's over CP2's, but that's a matter of personal taste. Not a fan of the XEEN's, still have to check out the Tokina primes. Those might be interesting to look at if they make them in EF (which I think they do).
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Brendan_H_Banks said:
I'm a big Angeniuex fan and some of their new DP series of zooms have EF mounts I believe. Definitely a higher price-point but I LOVE that glass.

WHOOPS, you said primes, my bad. I would take the CNE's over CP2's, but that's a matter of personal taste. Not a fan of the XEEN's, still have to check out the Tokina primes. Those might be interesting to look at if they make them in EF (which I think they do).
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I have a set of the Tokina Primes in EF mount so I can confirm they def. come in EF. They also have swappable mounts which was another big selling point for me. I plan to get PL mounts so that when I get back to the civilized world and people want that option I can switch'em over.
 
Ryan Williams said:
I have a set of the Tokina Primes in EF mount so I can confirm they def. come in EF. They also have swappable mounts which was another big selling point for me. I plan to get PL mounts so that when I get back to the civilized world and people want that option I can switch'em over.
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Tokina have swappable mounts - thats interesting. Do they have zooms with swappable mounts as well?
 
Are the Xeens just rehoused? I would have thought they are better glass and coatings than the originals. From comparisons, they look to be bang for buck, and depending on the style of the film they could be better than going with a "name".

All types of lenses are great. Just depends on the shooting style and content.

The onset difference between proper cine housing and "cinemods" is pretty big. Being able to switch out a lens without adjusting the accompanying accessories will make day to day easier. But, a good cinemod set is not that bad on a budget.
 
Richard Williams said:
Tokina have swappable mounts - thats interesting. Do they have zooms with swappable mounts as well?
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Richard,

1. You got a solid last name mate. :) 2. I'm not sure about the zooms from Tokina as I've not purchased any. I only bought the primes. Sorry I can't be of any further help on the zoom front! Maybe take a look at the Tokina Vista GB and see who bought one of their zooms and ask them. That and/or talk to Duclos. They'd be able to help you out as well.
 
James Sielaff said:
Are the Xeens just rehoused? I would have thought they are better glass and coatings than the originals. From comparisons, they look to be bang for buck, and depending on the style of the film they could be better than going with a "name".

All types of lenses are great. Just depends on the shooting style and content.

The onset difference between proper cine housing and "cinemods" is pretty big. Being able to switch out a lens without adjusting the accompanying accessories will make day to day easier. But, a good cinemod set is not that bad on a budget.
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They use the same optical schemes, this means they suffer the same problems in terms of image geometry. For me it's the first thing in lenses. Go check tests, there are some side by sides. They are the same.
 
I read Zeiss Otus lenses are really worth looking into. Duclos cine-mod them as well.

They are still lenses, but have a image quality up against, was it the Zeiss master primes?

I think I was going to invest in those as the next set as they have electric iris for remote operation which is really one of the main benifits of EF lens systems.
 
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