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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Best CC tool in Premiere

Colorista is currently only 8-bit under Premiere Pro, although I have been discussing the upgrade with RedGiant, so fingers-crossed for float support soon. Once they both have 32-bit float, the feature is favor of Colorista is it simple interface, whereas in favor of Color Finesse is the amount of control you get.
 
Phew, I was close to buying Colorista a few days ago. :usd:

That is why I started this thread to find out what the best prosumer color correction tool for Premiere/AfterFX there is, and what limitations I should be aware of.

If I had more money and my projects were for cinema I would be right if I could edit in Premiere, export a 444 Cineform CFHD AVI and using the Cineform AVI > DPX conversion tool I could deliver a DPX to a post house for "proper" high end color correction... right..??

I got demos of Color Finesse and Colorista and prefer Color Finesse, although the learning curve is higher.
 
Great thanks David once again for your help.
 
Can i get a clarification. Neo 4k and color finess give 4k workflow solution on pc including advanced color correction? visually lossless? Can someone post some pics? Can someone give us the downfalls on this workflow so no one experiences nasty surprises.
 
I'd also like to ask something.

A DP I know made some tests with a Christie 2K projector in a local cinema. He said that their system works with some kind of Cineform encoded files.

I was wondering what kind of Cineform software would enable me to export such packages and play them back on a Christie, for example.

It's a cool concept - you render your latest short, put it on a HDD and go to watch it with buddies in the local multi-plex :).

But seriously, which Cineform version allows for such exports? Or is it a special kind?

Mr. Newman?

Thanks in advance.
 
We've played CineForm files through a Christie projector numerous times, usually through its DVI input from a PC, both HD and 2K source. Yes, you just take your PC or laptop to the projection room, hook it up and go! Simply assign the Christie projector as the second head on a dual DVI graphics card.

You can also use HD-SDI to drive the projector but that requires the right player HW. We've done that numerous times too (HD-SDI) with different projectors including the Sony 4K projector and an NEC 2K projector. In the case of HD-SDI we've generally used a Wafian recorder/player as the source to drive the projector.

I'm sure the files referred to by your local theater were created from one of our standard packages - Neo or Prospect. The same files used for post are easily played out through the projector. Is this in Bulgaria?
 
Yes, Bulgaria.

They're called "Arena" Cinemas - a chain of multi-plex cinema centres.

...

I can't believe how far has the tech gone.

OMG, you carry the laptop and you.... just... play.

Amazing.
 
And what about Magic Bullet Colorista [primary CC] + Looks [Secondary CC].

How do these perform compared to Color Finesse?

Or it's best to have both? :)
 
With regards to playing video from a laptop via DVI:

I tried this once and we got an unacceptable amount of tearing in the video. Is there an easy way to stop the tearing?

Many thanks,
Jack
 
We've played from a laptop/desktop a couple times into a digital projector through DVI. The first time was through a Christie 2K projector and we had no problems with tearing, and setup was simply. The second time was through a 720p projector (can't remember which one), and we had to tweak the graphics card settings to get the display just right. I suspect there will be some hardware and parameter dependencies depending on the specific configuration.
 
laguun said:
premiere supports up to 16bit per channel, making it 48bit.
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Not quite, Premiere support up to 32-bit float per channel, making in 128-bit per pixel (remember the alpha channel.)

Premiere Pro CS3 supports a wide range of 8, 16 and 32-bit per channel versions of both RGBA and YUVA. Pretty flexible.
 
...so i should see an increased image quality compared to FCP 8 bit RGB ?
(it seems FCP renders RGB only in 8 bit)
 
FCP also has a 32-bit float YUVA mode. If you don't use 16-bit or 32-bit float, straight clip renders will be not see much difference, the difference comes when using color correction. 8-bit rendering with color correction is prone to banding, also 8-bit integer renders clip super whites (and super black if you have those.)
 
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