Best Canon L lenses 4 RED

[Steve Sanacore]

I keep hoping that Canon will come out with a new 8-20mm F/2.8 zoom...... How sweet would that be?

I don't think there is a market for that lens. All the pro lenses are for full format chip cameras. Even a 10-22 2.8 would be great for the RED.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

And I would expect the Zeiss lenses to be sharper than the Canon L's. I have quite a few Canon L lenses and they do not compare to my Leica R's but are much better than the Sigmas I own.


Just my 2 cents.

Yes Steve,

I also have owned every single "L" lens Canon has made in the last 5 years, basically since I have switched to Canon from Nikon, and still own the Top "L" primes, including my two absoluyte favorite the EF 200mm f/2.0L IS USm and the EF 85mm f/1.2L II, this are extremely sharp lenses and fantastic are the they produce, two lenses each in a category of their own!

Having said that, Zeiss are no doubt some of the sharpest lens in the Still market today, but if I had to absolutely go from start, which I might soon, I'll go with one of two systems, the Hasselblad or the Leica, as this two have absolutely the best Glass in the Still industry, mainly do to the fact that while Canon, produces Millions of lenses per year, Hasselblad and Leica as well as Zeiss produce very limited quantities of them and take way better care of the design and manufacturing quality control of their glass.

IN fact as I'm about to switch from the Canonn 1Ds III to the Hasselblad H3D II 50 or the Leica S2 Systems, I'll be conducting several tests to move in to the system that has the absolute superiority in the image they produce, and I'm not just counting the MP's or Sensor size, I'm seriously talking about the GLASS!

ciao

 

[Steve Sanacore]

Yes Steve,

IN fact as I'm about to switch from the Canonn 1Ds III to the Hasselblad H3D II 50 or the Leica S2 Systems, I'll be conducting several tests to move in to the system that has the absolute superiority in the image they produce, and I'm not just counting the MP's or Sensor size, I'm seriously talking about the GLASS!

ciao

I am waiting to see the Leica S2, I don't think the Hasselblad is quite the optics company they were in the 80's when we all used them as a standard. My last MF system was the Contax 645 and I truly loved it, it out performed all my older hasselblad and mamiya cameras and lenses. But with no digital future, I had to move on.

I really think the Leica is going to be the new standard, if any of these systems survive at all.

My Canon optics, (same as yours), are superb past 50mm, it's only the wides where I see a substantial difference using the Leica glass.

Some of the new Nikon lenses are getting rave reviews, (like the 14-24 2.8), the upcoming Nikon full frame camera with some of their new optics may be the other one to beat!

I think the ability for us to use still lenses on the RED can only increase the quality and reduce the prices of cine lenses for us all.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Well Steve, you are right the new Fujinon manufacture Hasselbald glass has been talked about not to be at par with the Zeiss counter parts, but this new Digital glass has his adventages, so I'm looking forward to the tests and see the true findings as a fellow Photographer here in Vegas has one Hassie H3D II 39, as far as the new Leica S2 and the new Medium Format sensor with parring New Glass, it will be hopefully a pleasing surprise, but Leica also must drop the price as Hasselblad did, going from 40k to 27.5k for the H3D II 50, as the price tag for the S2 at 45k is definitely stiff, unless it is truly that miracle new camera that will lead the world in best DSLR technology and image quality.

ciao

 

[Steve Sanacore]

Well Steve, you are right the new Fujinon manufacture Hasselbald glass has been talked about not to be at par with the Zeiss counter parts, but this new Digital glass has his adventages, so I'm looking forward to the tests and see the true findings as a fellow Photographer here in Vegas has one Hassie H3D II 39, as far as the new Leica S2 and the new Medium Format sensor with parring New Glass, it will be hopefully a pleasing surprise, but Leica also must drop the price as Hasselblad did, going from 40k to 27.5k for the H3D II 50, as the price tag for the S2 at 45k is definitely stiff, unless it is truly that miracle new camera that will lead the world in best DSLR technology and image quality.

ciao

45K? Hadn't heard that yet. Wow. That could be a deal killer for me. What I need in a MF is better and faster handling along with ultimate image quality for my fine art work. If it's that good - then it could be a winner. But at what price....

As far as the rest go, I would also go with the HD3 system before any other.

Personally I am looking to moving forward with more DP and directing work with the RED instead, which seems like a bargain compared to what we are discussing

Who knows what will be, but so far it's all been good!

We should hook up the next time I'm in Vegas.

stare bene

 

[Ketch Rossi]

45K? Hadn't heard that yet. Wow. That could be a deal killer for me. What I need in a MF is better and faster handling along with ultimate image quality for my fine art work. If it's that good - then it could be a winner. But at what price....

As far as the rest go, I would also go with the HD3 system before any other.

Personally I am looking to moving forward with more DP and directing work with the RED instead, which seems like a bargain compared to what we are discussing

Who knows what will be, but so far it's all been good!

We should hook up the next time I'm in Vegas.

stare bene

Yes Steve, sorry but 45K is the price for now, unless they fallow Hasselblad marketing strategy and drop 15 or 20k from the announced price tag.

One of the things that I'm working on and will be doing with next week Sirens of TI shoot, is extracting Frame Grabs form RED and I'll see if for the Fine Nude's Art work I do it suffices in Image quality and Print size, but I also definitely have more Directing work then Photography, so stearing towards RED is a no Brainer, but I must also have a minimum High end Photographic system as well, not longer having numerous lenses packed in several Pelicans, just the absolute Top system available with few lenses.

Please do shout when in Vegas.

ciao

 

[Michael Hastings]

All the pro lenses are for full format chip cameras. Even a 10-22 2.8 would be great for the RED.

For underwater I'd like to see a 2.8 superwide as well, but I'd be willing to go with a shorter zoom range too. Or better, I still want a superduper 9mm EF-S prime - maybe an F2?

Canon is making a few EF-S lenses that I would consider "PRO" lenses, particularly the EF-S 17-55 F2.8 IS which is basically the same range as the 24-70 on full frame 35mm. It has similar build and optical design and is actually a newer design AND includes IS which is a pretty big deal. I think it is the perfect "standard" zoom for a REDONE with a birger mount. I have used it a lot on my 40D with great success for available light photos but soon will trade up to the 5D Mark II to get my everyday walkaround 1080P (regardless of some of the rolling shutter and other bugaboo opinions here on REDUSER - I don't look at it as a replacement for my RED I look at it as a replacement for my Sony FX7 HDV) - so I think the 17-55 will start to permanently live on the RED.

 

[Dave Blackham]

For underwater I'd like to see a 2.8 superwide as well, but I'd be willing to go with a shorter zoom range too. Or better, I still want a superduper 9mm EF-S prime - maybe an F2?

Canon is making a few EF-S lenses that I would consider "PRO" lenses, particularly the EF-S 17-55 F2.8 IS which is basically the same range as the 24-70 on full frame 35mm. It has similar build and optical design and is actually a newer design AND includes IS which is a pretty big deal. I think it is the perfect "standard" zoom for a REDONE with a birger mount. I have used it a lot on my 40D with great success for available light photos but soon will trade up to the 5D Mark II to get my everyday walkaround 1080P (regardless of some of the rolling shutter and other bugaboo opinions here on REDUSER - I don't look at it as a replacement for my RED I look at it as a replacement for my Sony FX7 HDV) - so I think the 17-55 will start to permanently live on the RED.

Yep Id buy one of those super wides too. For some of our work 2k will be perfectly fine as it gives access to the higher frame rates. Also the increased depth of field will be helpfull. We work alot underwater and Red is certainly an exciting prospect for us in this environment. What is important though is a superwide lens for 2K work also. I dont see any other offering other than the Canon 10 - 22 or various S16 PL lenses which I am trying to stay away from.

Dave
UK

 

[Steve Sanacore]

For underwater I'd like to see a 2.8 superwide as well, but I'd be willing to go with a shorter zoom range too. Or better, I still want a superduper 9mm EF-S prime - maybe an F2?

Canon is making a few EF-S lenses that I would consider "PRO" lenses, particularly the EF-S 17-55 F2.8 IS which is basically the same range as the 24-70 on full frame 35mm. It has similar build and optical design and is actually a newer design AND includes IS which is a pretty big deal. I think it is the perfect "standard" zoom for a REDONE with a birger mount. I have used it a lot on my 40D with great success for available light photos but soon will trade up to the 5D Mark II to get my everyday walkaround 1080P (regardless of some of the rolling shutter and other bugaboo opinions here on REDUSER - I don't look at it as a replacement for my RED I look at it as a replacement for my Sony FX7 HDV) - so I think the 17-55 will start to permanently live on the RED.

Yes, I forgot about the EF-S 17-55 2.8 lens. Then maybe there is hope that Canon will make a 2.8 short zoom too. There is also no reason why RED can't make one in the 10-20 T3 range. It would probably be popular lens on the RED ONE.

 

[Michael Hastings]

Yep Id buy one of those super wides too. For some of our work 2k will be perfectly fine as it gives access to the higher frame rates. Also the increased depth of field will be helpfull. We work alot underwater and Red is certainly an exciting prospect for us in this environment. What is important though is a superwide lens for 2K work also. I dont see any other offering other than the Canon 10 - 22 or various S16 PL lenses which I am trying to stay away from.

Dave
UK

For 2K keep an eye on the Four Thirds System lenses I believe they have a 7mm available and it seems like I recall erik at birger saying they might develop a four thirds mount for their industrial users and at that point it would be pretty easy to make work with their RED product. This is based on recalling conversations from several months ago, so I could be totally mistaken. But it makes sense.