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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

battery hell in Beijing

Scott C. said:
Isn't the fan on Auto by default? You have to go in and turn it off manually, I hope. Pardon my ignorance, but I'm holding out for the next generation.

Simple solutions like throwing a bag of frozen peas on top of your $20k camera? I'm hoping that there is no way for the condensation to run into the chassis and fry the electronics in the same way that I hope my next Snickers bar won't cost me $20. :001_smile:
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The frozen peas were the humorous cherry on top of a sundae of easy solutions like putting the camera on Auto or Hot. And all the non-frozen pea solutions were being used in incredibly extreme environments successfully. If this is what is solely holding you back from using a RED, you're missing out.
 
This is a funny thread.. I am still trying to figure out how what this all has to do with Batteries though ( title of the thread ) ??/
 
Just think. When you wrap for the day everyone can enjoy some freshly defrosted peas, or whatever frozen goods you have on hand ;-)
 
To bring this thread back on topic, the overheating problem might be due to using the Red baseplate and screwing the long side bolts too far in at the back, resulting in one of them hitting the fan housing and preventing the fan from moving, thus leading to an overheating condition.

The way to fix this is first to use the short bolts, or use a washer as a spacer, and/or second to remove the baseplate and test the camera in that situation to see if the issue is fixed. If neither of those works (and the fan is set to Auto or Hot) then I'd send it back to Red as it would presumably be defective at that point.

Bing, could you hear the Red fan working at all? Or changing in speed/volume when you hit record? These would both be clues if the fan wasn't working.

HTH

Paul
 
Dominic Cochran said:
The frozen peas were the humorous cherry on top of a sundae of easy solutions like putting the camera on Auto or Hot.
And all the non-frozen pea solutions were being used in incredibly extreme environments successfully.
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If this is what is solely holding you back from using a RED, you're missing out.
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Not me. I'll be moving up ASAP. when the right next-gen Red comes out.
 
I've had the camera continuously overheat on me on three different jobs, all on air conditioned stages, in San Francisco, Santa Monica, Irvine CA. In each case it was because we were rolling 10-30 min takes with the camera mounted sideways, fan set to auto. The solution was to let the camera sit for a few minutes with fan on high until it cooled down.
 
david_winters said:
I've had the camera continuously overheat on me on three different jobs, all on air conditioned stages, in San Francisco, Santa Monica, Irvine CA. In each case it was because we were rolling 10-30 min takes with the camera mounted sideways, fan set to auto. The solution was to let the camera sit for a few minutes with fan on high until it cooled down.
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Exactly! RED's don't overheat easy, but the one time I've seen a problem was due to the camera being in direct sun on a hot day 100+ and doing a 40 minute time lapse. I think it's totally reasonable to let the camera have a chance to cool for a few seconds after 10 minutes of recording. I can see there being a problem if you weren't shading/cooling it and you tried recording for an hour straight in a hot location.
 
david_winters said:
... we were rolling 10-30 min takes with the camera mounted sideways...
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Interesting. Was the camera mounted CF side up (RED logo facing up) or cable side up?

With the fans on Auto, they should come on (quietly) when needed even if you are rolling.

For natural air convection, I would think you would want to mount the camera so the fans are sucking from the bottom and blowing out the top, which would be CF side down and connector side up.
 
Brent J. Craig said:
Interesting. Was the camera mounted CF side up (RED logo facing up) or cable side up?

CF card side up, due to the way the rig has to be constructed. I have an ongoing project that shoots 2 days a month with the setup. The only times we have overheat issues is when we do a lot of recording with little to no down time. Giving the camera 2-5 minutes between long takes keeps things operational, again this is on AC controlled stages, not outside. Fan set to auto.

I like the theory of mounting the camera the other way, I'll give it a try.
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hans de vries said:
maybe black painted metal in direct sun for a long time is trouble; next generation reds should be white
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:)

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Hours and hours of shooting in the Afghan heat and dust and no problems, every! Except I got sun burned :)

Ron
 
Peter Hodgins said:
Why do you guys all sound like you must also be Obama supporters?
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HUH ???

Why do you interject such a completely unrelated subject into what should be a pretty straight forward discussion? Are you purposely trying to start a flame war?

I myself have also never had a camera shutdown from overheating. I try to give it shade in direct sun but have had it running 10+ hours in high temperatures without a hiccup. That's not to say I haven't had other problems - some pretty serious IMO - but overheating never.
 
I live in Phoenix and shoot outdoors in 100+ degree weather all the time. We just make sure to keep a courtesy up for the camera and keep instant ice packs on hand and the camera does fine. Keep the fans on auto, or if it's getting really bad, the hot setting.
 
redbalance

redbalance

hans de vries said:
...next generation reds should be white
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someone - not familiar with the subject - should listen to this :laugh:

talking about some weird kind of "redbalance". whitebalance is out. redbalance is in. ....and pink is the new black anyway.
 
:As soon as he get up and out from under the ton of bricks that just landed on him i'd love to hear a comment from mr bing. batteries? fans? peas? flags?...:emote_couch:
personally I rather shoot a hot RED than any temp 2/3 chip broadcast lensed Sony f900 so bad analogy:frown2:
Obama???? I guess that guy should have turned his personal fan on the day we put him and all the other bush/mcCain supporters to bed for the next four or more years.:violin:
 
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