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Avengers Infinity Wars

william howell

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Amazing... Literally amazing... so many talented people coming together to produce a homogenous work of art like that astounds me.. I'm serious. If any of the members of this board worked on these films, I tip my professional hat towards you're awesomeness... (actually... I tip it to everyone here... I learn something new everytime I log in).

I am so glad we live in todays day and age... and that we've been able to witness comic book heroes of our youth come to life in such an amazing fashion... ANNNNNNDDDDD... on that note... I only have one true gripe with Marvel...

Bruce Banner was a genius. Depending on where you were in the Hulk story line, he was an extremely complex character that utilized deductive reasoning and critical thinking to solve complex problems. He was emotionally reserved, due to childhood trauma which explains his propensity to lose his temper so quickly and go green. In all honesty, his personality mirrored Sherlock Holmes (Benedict Cumberbatch's version) much more than how it's been portrayed in the Avengers movie universe. I feel like somewhere along the way in a meeting somebody jokingly said "Hey... let's make Bruce Banner like Homer Simpson"... and it was taken seriously.

That's my only complaint... I know that different companies own the rights to different Marvel characters so stories had to be changed and such... but.. as a science geek... Banner was one of my childhood heroes. I wish my daughter could grow up with the same Banner I grew up with.
 
william howell said:
That's my only complaint... I know that different companies own the rights to different Marvel characters so stories had to be changed and such... but.. as a science geek... Banner was one of my childhood heroes. I wish my daughter could grow up with the same Banner I grew up with.
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Agreed, but keep in mind the story of the Infinity War and the comic version isn't same. In the comics, Thanos has an obsessive infatuation with Lady Death (he snapped his fingers and sacrificed half the life in the universe as an offering of love to her)
 
Michael Wahba said:
It was shot incredibly well. I loved this movie.
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It helped that the Technicolor colorist team (headed up by Steven J. Scott and Gray Marshall) did such an exceptional job. It's a terrific-looking film from start to finish.
 
That I'm not a fan of the last years of superhero-movies would be an understatement.
I bought Iron Man 1 and the Avengers after all those great reviews and responses, and found both movies to be very very 'meh'. Started watching Guardians of the Galaxy. Couldn't finish more than 20 minutes. I concluded I didn't understand what the fuzz was about.
I find that as stories, looked on with a critical eye of storytelling criticism, they are really not good. They introduce characters without set-up and that just leave after one scene because 'it can set up a next movie'. Sorry but... WTF?
I think it's a sad state of affairs, the state of the blockbuster in Hollywood. All comic book adaptations with pale soundtracks and all the same color correction. Movie studios bying other movie studios to become even bigger conglomerates and having even less diversity in blockbuster-land.

I have a lot of friends who go to every new Marvel movie. When I ask them: Did you like it? Was it a good movie? They are always very: "it's okay. It's Marvel."
You rarely hear LOVE. But they feel like they HAVE to see it because 'oh they set stuff up for the next movie. And they are spectacular.'
Viewed on their own, people should be way more critical of these movies. Compare that with a Back to the Future...
But hey. If people go and see them, they will keep making them.

Rants from an 'old' 30 year old? Hehe.
 
Mathieu Ghekiere said:
That I'm not a fan of the last years of superhero-movies would be an understatement.
I bought Iron Man 1 and the Avengers after all those great reviews and responses, and found both movies to be very very 'meh'. Started watching Guardians of the Galaxy. Couldn't finish more than 20 minutes. I concluded I didn't understand what the fuzz was about.
I find that as stories, looked on with a critical eye of storytelling criticism, they are really not good. They introduce characters without set-up and that just leave after one scene because 'it can set up a next movie'. Sorry but... WTF?
I think it's a sad state of affairs, the state of the blockbuster in Hollywood. All comic book adaptations with pale soundtracks and all the same color correction. Movie studios bying other movie studios to become even bigger conglomerates and having even less diversity in blockbuster-land.

I have a lot of friends who go to every new Marvel movie. When I ask them: Did you like it? Was it a good movie? They are always very: "it's okay. It's Marvel."
You rarely hear LOVE. But they feel like they HAVE to see it because 'oh they set stuff up for the next movie. And they are spectacular.'
Viewed on their own, people should be way more critical of these movies. Compare that with a Back to the Future...
But hey. If people go and see them, they will keep making them.

Rants from an 'old' 30 year old? Hehe.
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Agree, although the Batman's with Bale where pretty much okay.
 
maybe I'm just a fan boy, but I love the marvel movies. I think people look at movies sometimes with a microscope. As a married man with 4 kids, 14,9,9,4 , most marvel movies are things I can take all my kids too, and they all enjoy it, my wife enjoys it, I enjoy it, and everyone is happy. The suspense is always there, and I feel like the acting is always convincing and good. Of course there are moments that completely make NO SENSE, ITS A MOVIE! Yes at times its annoying but without those moments the plot couldn't move forward and if you just take the movie as something to be enjoyed, its not so bad.

if your critiquing it, then yes, tons of things that are gonna piss you off lol
 
Jason beaumont said:
maybe I'm just a fan boy, but I love the marvel movies. I think people look at movies sometimes with a microscope.
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The difference that is going through the Hollywood industry in regards to superhero-movies and the producing of movies that is being replaced with just producing new episodes of existing franchise-material is already a LONG time beyond 'microscope-' level. I just started reading the book 'THE BIG PICTURE: THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF MOVIES' from Ben Fritz, and it chronicles how the whole industry is changing and which mechanisms are doing this. One of the biggest reasons is that it's big corporations that bought the film studios now, and the book talks about the clash of the 'old style studio moguls' that were looking for talent, scripts, and hoping to make as much money from movies, from Wall Street people being at the top and just thinking: 'from this we can sell 5 sequels, and lots of merchandise'. It also talks about how the studios went from having TENT POLE movies, which were called after having these big movies to hang up the rest of the strategy (to have a big picture like INDIANA JONES, but then let those hopefully bigger hits surrounded by thrillers, romantic comedies, dramas, etc.) to now the big studios almost ONLY wanting to make the biggest cash cows, and only making a few of them because they are so expensive.
It's all about franchises now, and not about movies.

I'm not saying you are not allowed to love the Marvel movies. I'm happy you and your family like them. But this critique of these movies goes a lot deeper then 'of course it doesn't make sense, it's a movie'. The concerns have to do with the state of storytelling, the cinema experience, what's going on behind the scenes for creative people in the industry, etc.

I'm not affiliated with the writer, I just started reading the book so it's early, but for the people who are interested:
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Picture-Fight-Future-Movies-ebook/dp/B073XBSMVY
 
What did people like about this movie? I thought it was technically flawless but I didn't really engage with the storytelling or direction as much.

I'm way way too old for super hero movies, but I still enjoyed Winter Soldier and Civil War, so I'm not trying to beat up on the Russos or their target audience. While I can see liking something purely for the visuals, I still felt the visuals were more technically perfect than emotional or stylish (consistent with other Marvel movies, not bad, just not remarkable except in scale). I'm not intending to troll anyone, I just don't get it and wish I could appreciate or at least understand what I'm missing. (If I'm trying to work in this industry I want to better understand the films popular in the zeitgeist and not just older films and outliers.)
 
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Mathieu Ghekiere said:
I just started reading the book 'THE BIG PICTURE: THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF MOVIES' from Ben Fritz, and it chronicles how the whole industry is changing and which mechanisms are doing this. One of the biggest reasons is that it's big corporations that bought the film studios now, and the book talks about the clash of the 'old style studio moguls' that were looking for talent, scripts, and hoping to make as much money from movies, from Wall Street people being at the top and just thinking: 'from this we can sell 5 sequels, and lots of merchandise'.
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That is an astonishingly interesting book. Note that the author got most of his info from the infamous Sony hacks, which is the only way any studio would divulge all the private conversations and meetings that go on behind closed doors.
 
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