Audio on Epic

[David Pienaar]

I am trying to record a basic guide track on my Epic. I plug in a mic and see levels on the display, adjust the levels.

When I transcode in Redcine X there is no audio. The audio menu seems really basic but is there some setting i have missed out.

I am in a 25fps time base.

 

[Daniel Reichenbach]

newest redcine installed?

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?61183-REDCINE-X-Build-487...

 

[David Pienaar]

Got it! Thanks!

 

[charles lim yi yong]

is there monitoring levels?

 

[Jean Simenon]

is there monitoring levels?

Good question. Would love to know as well!

 

[Brian Iannone]

I believe that monitoring levels are available on the display (if a display is attached), but I'm not sure. Can someone confirm this?

 

[Paul Nordin]

Mointoring levels while shooting with Epic is available on the display (4-channel level bars on bottom). You can also plug a headset into the audio out on the back of Epic and listen. I'm not having any problems with my Epic-M and audio.

 

[Brian Iannone]

Mointoring levels while shooting with Epic is available on the display (5-channel level bars on bottom). You can also plug a headset into the audio out on the back of Epic and listen. I'm not having any problems with my Epic-M and audio.

What do you mean by "5-channel level bars on bottom?" Can EPIC actually monitor five channels of audio?

 

[Paul Nordin]

Sorry, typo. Epic monitors 4 channels

 

[Brian Iannone]

Sorry, typo. Epic monitors 4 channels

So, EPIC can monitor four channels? I'm a little confused. Aren't there only two audio inputs on the camera (with each input supporting only one channel)?

 

[Michael Lindsay]

So, EPIC can monitor four channels? I'm a little confused. Aren't there only two audio inputs on the camera (with each input supporting only one channel)?

My guess is the pro-IO module will allow 4 audio in.. (as well as VF and Monitor outs..)

M

 

[charles lim yi yong]

i cannot find any monitoring levels to check on audio levels.

 

[John Bannister]

....page 35 of the Scarlet manual shows 4 channel audio meters on the lower right of the touch screen. Be sure to enable these channels in the cameras menu/ settings/ audio etc. These show as pic on my touch screen.

 

[David Battistella]

Guys.

Its safe to say that EPIC and Scarlett both currently have 2 channels of mic level audio available through mic level only inputs on the brain.

In the future 4 channels should be available of mic or line level audio when the pro I/o module is released next year.

You can change the input level (recording level) and the headphone output level (monitoring level) on the touchscreen.

Get your hands on some DB pads to convert line level signals coming from a mixer to mic level for excellent audio recordings. This will allow you to shout double or single system with the EPIC as it is right now.

No phantom power on EPIC yet so get yourself a nice sound devices mix pre to take care of all the audio going into the EPIC.


David.

 

[charles lim yi yong]

i recorded a test today and could hear the audio through the headphones jacked into the RED epic from behind.
However ,
1 I was unable to see any realtime audio monitoring levels.
2 When I load the clips in RED cine X Pro - there were no audio in the clips. (or I was unable to play it back with the video)

 

[Matt Gottshalk]

Yes but in the audio menu there is an option for enabling 2 more channels via the upcoming pro io module.

 

[Mark Toia]

I set the audio levels quite hi on the EPIC but the audio always comes out very low when we transcode...
Any suggestions guys

thanks

 

[Marc Wielage]

My suggestion (non-sarcastic) would be to regard the audio on the Epic as scratch audio, and record on a separate, standalone audio recorder.

 

[D Fuller]

My suggestion (non-sarcastic) would be to regard the audio on the Epic as scratch audio, and record on a separate, standalone audio recorder.

I second this suggestion.

I do quite a bit of audio direct to the camera for doc interviews. Quality and levels are very good. I use a Mix Pre-D for its great preamps and because it provides phantom power and a mic-level out to the Epic.

But a timecode recorder let's you work untethered from the audio, and it makes Epic just that much more flexible. Timecode sync takes about a minute per mag in RedCine.

 

[Paul Russell]

On my Epic running firmware 2.0.5 the optimum way to record audio is to put in line level and keep the Epic audio low. Putting mic level in directly forces you to increase audio to 50dB, which causes lots of noise. So go in via a small mobile mixer and you'll get great stereo sound and low SNR. This is using Unbalanced (which you can set in the firmware). As your mics and mixer are battery powered this is not going to cause any earth hum issues, so balanced is unecessary. Ensure phantom power is switched off.

As a shortcut, I often use a Zoom style recorder to take a direct feed of the audio, and then use the headphone out to the Epic for scratch audio. That way I get to make two copies of the audio simultaneously, and can control the inputs into the Epic via the remote recorder. Monitoring can be done from the camera headphone output.