Atomos Shogun as field monitor?

[Scott Pultz]

What do people think about using this as a field monitor? I don't need its recording capabilities, but it has some features that nobody else seems to have. In particular it is a 1920x1200 screen and accepts 4K input. One can then do a 2:1 zoom and pan around at the pixel level using the touch screen. For $2k this seems pretty sweet.

 

[Dan Kanes]

Great idea - I'll be testing one soon and will post here!

let us know your thoughts too if you get one !

 

[Scott Pultz]

I'm thinking of renting one. Do you know when you are going to get yours?

 

[Scott C]

I'm planning on picking one up if for no other reason than to use with my a7s so I can do a little better with it as a B-Cam for Dragon. But looking forward to using it with both cameras. Just waiting on a ship date-- anybody got any clues?

 

[Tom Gleeson]

Pretty sure they have started to ship but filling pre orders first.

 

[Scott C]

Pretty sure they have started to ship but filling pre orders first.

Looks like you're right, they've started shipping as of Tuesday.

I have to say I'm a little apprehensive after seeing the latency in the demo video (watch starting at 14:10)-- http://vimeo.com/114644960

 

[Daniel Stilling]

The latency of the video is due to the GH4. It has a horrendous delay on the HDMI output, so I don't think the device is adding any...

 

[Scott C]

The latency of the video is due to the GH4. It has a horrendous delay on the HDMI output, so I don't think the device is adding any...

Glad to hear that (and that's disappointing about the GH4). Looking forward to seeing it paired with the a7s in person =)

 

[Scott C]

Just picked one up from Omega Broadcast here in Austin. Will be doing some testing over the next few days/weeks, as the holidays allow. Let me know if you have anything you want me to look at.

 

[soren k jensen]

Please let us know: Can you nail focus wo punching in? Is there an easy way to trigger pixel-to pixel and focus in red via buttons or is there a remote that may let us keep fingers on a follw focus, and hit a remote button to trigger the focus assist?

 

[Patrick Tresch]

How many frames is the delay with the 4k output from a A7s?

Greatly appreciated.

Pat

 

[Steve Das]

How Bright is it it terms of nits..? If it's around 900 nits it could function as a decent high bright monitor.

 

[Scott C]

Please let us know: Can you nail focus wo punching in? Is there an easy way to trigger pixel-to pixel and focus in red via buttons or is there a remote that may let us keep fingers on a follw focus, and hit a remote button to trigger the focus assist?

So far, I definitely feel confident w/ focus on this monitor even without peaking on-- huge improvement in resolution at 1920x1200 over the 5" touch and not even the same ballgame as the a7s monitor. If left to judge focus on just the a7s, I always feel like I'm flying blind, even its focus peaking I find poor and obtrusive. This monitor's peaking is much more subtle and I cannot even tell you how useful it is having a vectorscope to get a reliable white balance with this camera. Comparing a manual WB using the color matrix to the Auto WB shows they are telling very different stories.

I don't see any hard keys to use to toggle things like peaking or zoom, but there is a remote port on the hdmi side of the camera. I imagine whatever plugs in there could give that functionality.

How many frames is the delay with the 4k output from a A7s?

Greatly appreciated.

Pat

I would say something like 1-2ms at most, overall negligible. After watching the video with the GH4 I was worried, but you can work live off of this monitor with the a7s no problem.

How Bright is it it terms of nits..? If it's around 900 nits it could function as a decent high bright monitor.

Initial impression for me is that it's plenty bright but you'll probably be let down if you're expecting something you'd use in a high-bright situation. BH lists it at 400 nits and the monitor is glossy. Nothing a matte screen protector & a sunshade won't fix for my purposes though.

 

[soren k jensen]

Many thanks Scott!
I wish you a wonderful festive season from Copenhagen!

 

[dio Zafi]

has someone tried this on a red mx or red epic yet?

 

[Note Suwanchote]

Anyone know the full capability of using LUTs?
the SmallHD DP7 can load full luts but can't display all luts correctly (though the majority work very well).

 

[Patrick Tresch]

Thanks Scott very helpful.

Pat

 

[Tom Gleeson]

Used a Shogun yesterday and was very impressed. Reasonably bright screen. Excellent colour with a 1920x1080 screen. Was amazed how lightweight it was although it feels well built. We powered off DSLR style Sony batteries and we went through alot of batteries eventually running out. Next time will run off bricks and P Tap. I'm putting this on my wish list

 

[Tristan Houghton]

I managed to snag one off ebay in December and it's a great tool for reasons explained earlier in this thread like the focus assist and colour matrix.

I'm running it with my dragon's and the sony a7s. It dwarfs the a7s so a cage is necessary. Also to run the unit it's a battery pig (atomos is trying to solve this with firmware upgrade) so using the larger npf9700 makes the combination with the monitor and a7s really unbalanced....another reason for a good cage.

It definitely needs a sunshade for shooting exteriors! Atomos are trying to get theirs out by Feb.

There have been a few issues with monitor like half blue frames when recording (resolved in latest firmware release a few days ago) and it doesn't currently load LUTs or even playback recorded footage.

They really rushed the unit out and it tells.

Overall though it's a great tool that just needs all the features enabled properly.

Definitely happy with my purchase.

 

[Dan Kanes]

Got mine last week...

Have to say - Build quality was a tremendous dissapointment on my part...

thermal paste was leaking out the top of it.

Don't get me wrong...you get a lot of features for The $2000... but the quality had to be cut somewhere.

LUT functionality is not there yet at all...

They did get some things right though. The screen is gorgeous to look at, the scopes are BEYOND excellent...REALLY well Done.

Wish it had a built in USB port, and really needs the ability to use Two batteries (either hot swap, or for better power management if using small DV batteries...

I guess Shogun2 will likely solve a lot of the issues I have with it now, and probably around NAB the firmware will be where I would want it to be now... Which is totally fine.

Nice to have an included Pelican style HPRC Case included with precut foam.

More to come in the near future.