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ATA carnet - Carry on Red one

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Abdelhay Elanbassi

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Hello everybody,

I am planning to take my Red and a few accessories to overseas. I am planning to pay the custom in Morocco, as my Red will stay there. The question is, do I need ATA carnet or any document to pass the custom in JFK?

My second question: what is the best way to carry on red one body and 2 lenses 18-50 T3 and 50-150 T3, I am thinking about Pelican case 1510.

Thank you in advance!
Abdelhay
 
Carnet

Carnet

A Carnet is not about leaving the US. It is about taking your equipment in and out of another country without paying duty or a bond for it there. You don't always need it, but when it turns out you do and you don't have one, it really sucks (like they take your equipment away and don't give it back until you pay your duty or bond, which is always a lot more than the Carnet would have been).

Some people try to sneak past customs without declaring (another poor idea). Best bet is to just go ahead and get a Carnet and make sure the correct documents are checked in and out of your destination country.

That's my two cents...
 
Yeah I don't think you'll have any issues other than security as far as leaving NY, but you'll definitely be up for duties or whatever they want to hit you up for in your destination.

Noah
 
Abdelhay,

An ATA CARNET only comes into play if you are going to be leaving the country with the equipment and it sounds as if you are not so it doesn't seem you should need a CARNET. Also not all countries are party to the ATA CARNET agreement.

We just traveled through Eastern Europe and Central Asia with a RED and an appropriate CARNET - it was quite an experience.

David
 
David Wilson said:
An ATA CARNET only comes into play if you are going to be leaving the country with the equipment and it sounds as if you are not so it doesn't seem you should need a CARNET. Also not all countries are party to the ATA CARNET agreement.
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Actually the OP said they were traveling "overseas," so an ATA Carnet would be applicable.

We just traveled through Eastern Europe and Central Asia with a RED and an appropriate CARNET - it was quite an experience.
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Really? I'd love to hear more.
 
1510 is great for the body butt obviously you will need something else for the lenses.
 
To go into another country and stay you need no carnet.

You might however have to pay a VAT. If you ever want to then take it back out of that country for a gig you will have to file paper work of of there, probably a carnet.

If you ever bring it back to the US and you never did a carnet and never registered it with customs then they will assume you purchased it outside of the US and charge an import tax or require you to have a carnet for temporary import.
 
My understanding and recent experience leads me to agree with J. Eric Camp's post: if the camera and related equipment is not going to be leaving the country into which you are traveling and you are paying the appropriate duties, you then do not need a CARNET.

I am out of town at the moment but will be back on Tuesday. If this is still an open question at that point, I will send along the contact information of the enormously helpful ATA CARNET company that provided our documents. I'm sure a quick phone call would answer any questions.

Alexander - I would enjoy telling the whole complicated story of bringing the equipment through Russian customs but that may have to wait for a more leisurely moment. Even though we have shot in those environs a number of times in the past, we had never before traveled with a CARNET. Traveling with a CARNET (at least in CIS states) is a horse of a very different color and one needs to be prepared for the realities.
 
J. Eric Camp said:
To go into another country and stay you need no carnet.

You might however have to pay a VAT. If you ever want to then take it back out of that country for a gig you will have to file paper work of of there, probably a carnet.

If you ever bring it back to the US and you never did a carnet and never registered it with customs then they will assume you purchased it outside of the US and charge an import tax or require you to have a carnet for temporary import.
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Thank you all, I will pay the VAT once I get to Morocco. Do you think the receipt I got from Red will be enough since I bought the Camera in US or I should register it somewhere here /custom in JFK which I have no clue where to start.
Thank you!
Abdel
 
David Wilson said:
My understanding and recent experience leads me to agree with J. Eric Camp's post: if the camera and related equipment is not going to be leaving the country into which you are traveling and you are paying the appropriate duties, you then do not need a CARNET.

I am out of town at the moment but will be back on Tuesday. If this is still an open question at that point, I will send along the contact information of the enormously helpful ATA CARNET company that provided our documents. I'm sure a quick phone call would answer any questions.
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Thank you David!
 
dino g said:
1510 is great for the body butt obviously you will need something else for the lenses.
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Thank you! I like the case but it doesn't fit the Red body and 2 lenses. I am thinking to get the Tenba Roadie Universal Roller case, it will fit the red body, a laptop and at least one lens probably two.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=cart_accessories&A=details&Q=&sku=586039&is=REG

Thank you!
 
Your receipt should be enough but you might consider a Certificate of Registration. You can get this from customs at JFK. It is official US proof of purchase. It and your original receipt dot he same thing but it can cover a large list of gear. If you ever bring the camera back to the us the receipt and or Certificate of Registration will get it back in the us duty free.

David, I would be happy to put my Egypt stories up against your Russian ones some time.
 
Pay for for the Carnet - and try to clear as much as you can with your destination country before you travel.

I just tried taking my EX1 to Ethiopia in November, was promised my by in-country organization that it wouldn't be a problem in several communications, and when I got there customs completely freaked out on me. They said I needed a certificate from the ministry of communication, that they didn't allow ANY pro video gear in the country whatsoever, locked it up, wouldn't let me pay any import tax, and I got zero footage
during the trip.

I tried everything - this was my 10th time to Africa - and nothing worked. So do your homework and plan ahead if you want to get your gear in AND out of your place of travel.

my .02
 
I agree about the homework, but he siad he is not taking the gear in and out. This is a permanent move. Carnets cover the temporary import and then timely re-export of gear.
 
I´d ask red to provide you with a list of the TARIC Codes, for the Equipment, the help at Customs to declare the equipment in there right group. Red shipped that list with the equipment in my case (EU) not sure if they provide it for shipments within USA.

With your equipment, your Invoice from Red and the TARIC Code List you can go to the customs and declare your camera. You´ll have to pay Import Tax and VAT.

This applies if the camera stays in the country you´re going to.
If you´re just entering a foreign country with the camera for a shooting a ATA Carnet is the right way (if the country is a ATA Carnet "partner") I traveled to Egypt from Germany, and Egypt is not int the ATA List, Customs told me, i should take all my paperwork about the purchased equipment with me.

they made a note in my passport, that i have to show them the equipment when leaving the country. Everything went fine.

Manuel
 
Last year I flew out of JFK carrying the RED One as hand luggage. I made sure I had a lens on 'coz the RED looks kind of 'suspicious'. I showed it to the security, they dusted it for explosives and then handed it back to me. No questions asked after that.
 
David Wilson said:
My understanding and recent experience leads me to agree with J. Eric Camp's post: if the camera and related equipment is not going to be leaving the country into which you are traveling and you are paying the appropriate duties, you then do not need a CARNET.

I am out of town at the moment but will be back on Tuesday. If this is still an open question at that point, I will send along the contact information of the enormously helpful ATA CARNET company that provided our documents. I'm sure a quick phone call would answer any questions.

Alexander - I would enjoy telling the whole complicated story of bringing the equipment through Russian customs but that may have to wait for a more leisurely moment. Even though we have shot in those environs a number of times in the past, we had never before traveled with a CARNET. Traveling with a CARNET (at least in CIS states) is a horse of a very different color and one needs to be prepared for the realities.
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PM me on that contact information as well David.

J
 
If you're carrying on watch out for the airline carry on weight and dimension limits.
 
here's a good case for the body and one lens:
http://www.casecruzer.com/redapple/index.html
index.html

I use the thinktank airport antidote backpack for my red body when I'm traveling and also use the pelican 1510 for lenses. I carry on both. I have flown all over the world with my gear packed liked this and never had a problem.
here's the thinktank case:
Airport-Antidote-V20-1.jpg
 
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