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Just read this disturbing article concerning ASC. I know there are a few ASC people around here and would love to hear what they have to say.



Recent reports reveal that female writers and directors remain woefully underemployed in the film and TV business; the numbers are so dismal that in May the ACLU called on the government to launch an investigation. But the numbers are far worse for female directors of photography, who make up less than 4% of the membership of the American Society of Cinematographers.

The ASC may be Hollywood’s most exclusive club, and for most of its 96-year history, it was exclusively an all-men’s club. Founded a year before women won the right to vote in 1920, it would be 60 more years before the ASC would admit its first female member, and another 15 years after that before it would admit its second. By contrast, the DGA admitted its first female member in 1938 – two years after its founding — and its second in 1950.


In its entire history, fewer than 800 cinematographers have had the honor of placing the letters ASC after their names, and fewer than 20 of them have been women. Other than the stuntmen’s organizations, which don’t have any female members at all, no other industry group has fewer women.

Ten years ago, there were only five, and today there are only 14 active ASC female members, accounting for less than 4% of its 360 active members. None of its officers is a woman, and there are no females on its 15-member Board of Governors, and none of the five alternates is a woman either. Its current president is a man, and its former presidents – all 50 of them – were men, too.

No woman has ever received an Oscar nomination for Best Cinematography, and a recent survey found that only 2% of all the Emmy nominations for best cinematography have gone to women.

The ASC is not a union, but virtually iatse logoall of its members are members of one – IATSE Cinematographers Guild Local 600, whose national officers are all men too. Both the ASC and the Cinematographers Guild, however, have been trying to bring more women into the business, and have been promoting those already here. The guild recently took out a trade add touting its 1,100 female members – about 15% of its membership – and has a Diversity Committee dedicated to raising diversity issues and encouraging producers to hire more women and minorities.

The ASC also has an outreach program designed to promote greater understanding of the cinematographer’s craft and to reach out to film school students interested in becoming cinematographers. At an outreach program at its famed Clubhouse in Hollywood last June, ASC member Lisa Wiegand, a cinematographer for American Crime and Chicago Fire, told students that doors are opening for women in the industry. “I think this job is awesome, and I’ve wanted to do it since I was 15,” she said. “I think that today, there are so many more opportunities for cinematographers, such a great variety of projects being made, that there’s a lot more room for more people to shoot, and an increase in women cinematographers will just become part of that.”


ASC member Joan Churchill, the award-winning documentarian whose director of photography credits include Last Days In Vietnam and Biggie and Tupac, told the students that the industry may be on the verge of a new era of diversity. “I think there are more women learning to be cinematographers today than ever before,” she said. “A few years ago, when I was the cinematographer-in-residence at UCLA, more than half my students were women.”Few of them, however, will ever make it into the ASC, which over the last decade has added, on average, fewer than one female member per year. Those who have managed to make it in include Uta Briesewitz (Arthur); Sharon Calahan (Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo); Anna Foerster (White House Down); Judy Irola (An Ambush of Ghosts); Ellen Kuras (Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind); Reed Morano (Frozen River, The Skeleton Twins); Cynthia Pusheck (Revenge); Tami Reiker (Pieces Of April); Nancy Schreiber (The Celluloid Closet); Sandi Sissel (The People Under The Stairs); Amy Vincent (Eve’s Bayou, Hustle & Flow), and Mandy Walker (Shattered Glass, Red Riding Hood).

In 1980, Brianne Murphy became the first woman ever admitted to the ASC and the first woman director of photography on a major studio film – Fatso. Seven years earlier, she’d become the first female cinematographer in the Cinematographers Guild. She died in 2003.


Membership in the ASC is by invitation only, and there is a growing list of accomplished female directors of photography who have yet to be invited to join, including Annette Haellmigk, who was nominated in each of the last two years for an ASC Award for her work on Game Of Thrones; Maryse Alberti (The Wrestler and Love, Marilyn); Rachel Morrison (Fruitville Station, Cake); Lisa Rinzeler (Dead Presidents); and numerous acclaimed documentary DPs, including Jenna Rosher, Kirsten Johnson and Emmy-nominated Nicola Marsh.

Part of the problem for women breaking into any male-dominated club is the invitation process itself, because it’s usually the men who do the inviting. “We are an invitation-only organization,” ASC president Richard Crudo wrote in the ASC Magazine last year. “You can’t just call up and join. You can’t be a newcomer to the career, either. Membership is open to directors of photography who have occupied that position for no less than five out of the eight years preceding application. As you might expect, the individual’s work must have continually demonstrated superb taste and technical mastery.”

Candidates must also be of “good character,” he noted. “Little known to the industry at large, good character is an important prerequisite. Those who are dishonest, abusive to their crews, or who have any sort of dodgy reputation are inevitably found out and barred from our ranks.”

Today, diversity and inclusion may be the ultimate test of the industry’s good character – and in an increasingly diverse and international marketplace, a source of profit, as well. As Cinematographers Guild president Steven Poster wrote recently, “Diversity can bring new and better perspectives to our workplace, increase productivity, motivate, and add to our learning experience.”



-David Robb for Deadline




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Mr. Robb,
The tone of your piece would lead one to believe that the ASC is somehow responsible for the dearth of female cinematographers in Hollywood. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. The ASC is not a social-engineering organization; it is an elite, honorary organization. You quote many statistics, but fail to point out the most important fact as it applies to us: If you are a cinematographer who meets our standards, you will be discovered and invited into membership regardless of your gender, race, creed or nationality. Our roster is proof positive of that. The membership process is thorough and lengthy, and if there seems to you to be a shortage of women in our ranks, more than anything that is reflective of the shortage of female cinematographers across the industry at large.
Your article also reflects some extremely shoddy reporting. You called the ASC yesterday morning and asked to reach some of our female members. Our staff offered to contact them on your behalf; you neglected to call any of them, and you conveniently omitted comments from the female member who phoned you first. Perhaps her perspective would have clashed with the agenda you had already decided upon. In closing, I suggest you make more of an effort to be fair the next time out. Like all of us at the ASC, I look forward to welcoming every new member; they are the absolute best at what they do.
Yours truly,
Richard P. Crudo, ASC
President
 
In response to Mr Robb a friend of mine wrote...


ASC President Richard Crudo responded to David Robb of Deadline on their FB page. Journalistic issues he addresses aside, the reply reeks of the myth of meritocracy. "If you are a cinematographer who meets our standards, you will be discovered and invited into membership regardless of your gender, race, creed or nationality. Our roster is proof positive of that." Um. No it's not. Let's talk about how you reach their "standards." When you look at film schools, half of film school grads are women, yet that's nowhere near reflected in the industry. UCLA is a great example of a program that has educated a large number of female DPs over the years, including Lisa Wiegand, ASC.

So what's happening after film school? These women are talented and capable and yet they aren't necessarily getting the jobs where they will be "discovered," but you can pray and hope. If they are discovered their path may take a lot longer than that of a white male DP. Even now UCLA has some female DPs who are rocking it and I don't doubt they are on the path of becoming part of the ASC far down the line. This also speaks to DPs of color. Superstar DPs like Bradford Young and Reed Morano are outliers who can be used to affirm the myth of meritocracy, because they are just so damn good and you can't deny them, no matter how entrenched the industry is in it's lack of casting women and poc for their shows.

The ASC as an organization should be doing it's part to support women and people of color to help add more diversity (actually, can we get some equity) to their roster. And, it very well may be doing that, but if we don't see it, we can't celebrate their efforts. Are they doing any educational outreach with universities and industry entities to help foster inclusive environments for female DPs and DPs of color?

The comments are also telling. The same old BS from men who feel threatened because someone has voiced that the system should have a more level playing field and calling out the exclusivity of an organization like The ASC.

"High standards are sexist, apparently."

"No one is shunned from any positions out there. Everything is open to all regardless. How they succeed within any organization is 100% based upon their actions, talents, or lack there of..."

"No offense at all, but I don't see much of a reason why female cinematographers should be lifted in particular."

Also...
I would add that he doesn't even address the industry's problems. That's part of the responsibilities of The ASC, an organization in the industry. He can't defend that but he shouldn't also neglect it.

-Daye Rodgers DP, Los Angeles.
 
No woman has ever received an Oscar nomination for Best Cinematography, and a recent survey found that only 2% of all the Emmy nominations for best cinematography have gone to women.
I dont understand what he is trying to say and how this is connected with ASC.Why blaming ASC,there is less women cinematographers around.Btw its more easy to join ASC if you are woman.
 
The fact that there is only one reply to this saddens me almost as much at the issues discussed. I feel as is we are all to blame here. The statistics for the ASC certainly don't bode well for that institution which prides itself on Loyalty • Progress • Artistry.
 
I don't really know why this is. There are plenty of female ACs. I have several female DP friends. True that the vast majority of DPs are men, but I really don't think there is any kind of boys club keeping them out. I mean shit, the DP usually get hired by the Director or the Producer, and there are plenty of female of those. It is weird, but I don't think it's evil.

Nick
 
Keep in mind that since the ASC is an honorary society and therefore its invitees have some sort of track record of quality work built over years, the average age of the members probably reflects the industry demographics not of this year but of several years ago, if not a decade or so ago. Over time it will therefore reflect the demographics of the industry today, so therefore the real issue is improving diversity at the film school level through the professional workforce and the unions, which in turn will affect the demographics of the ASC. There's no way that the demographics of the ASC, where many members are well over 40, could reflect the demographics of film school graduates today, most of whom are in their mid-20's.

Keep in mind that I wholeheartedly agree that diversity is an important goal and it is shameful that something like 98% of feature films last year were shot by men, but to target the ASC on this problem is misplaced.
 
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I am sorry that there are not more responses but I don't know where to go with this. I have always been astonished with the lack of females in both the DP role and the director role. But as someone who was proposed for membership into the ASC after DPing over 20 feature films on 35mm I cannot find fault with the society.

I have been on the voting end of the membership committee and we have not accepted many proposed applicants. I think the industry as a whole suffers form a bit of "men's club" mentality.

But I do not feel that the ASC is to be blamed here.
 
In my strong opinion ASC, which I love and would, should one day be invited, be very honored to accept, has little to do with the facts stated in an otherwise good but yet incomplete and somewhat not exactly perfectly oriented article...

The issue here is that there is simply a TRUE lack of support for Females in general in our Male predominant industry... Just as it is so in other industries I have been in for just over 3 decades...

I have thru my years of global travels met so many talented and absolutely most deserving Female Filmmakers and or Aspiring to be... That I promised myself I would one day do something about it...

I have been doing what ever little I could in the past years...

However it is now that I have been the most involved to truly make a global difference on this issue in our fantastic industry...


Can't wan't say anything more at this time... Other then it reads (Full Grants Program) TACTICAL FILM INSTITUTION... :)

https://www.facebook.com/Tactical-Film-Institution-508417122651962/timeline/

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My thoughts: it's not the ASC's fault. And I agree that an elite organization has no business doing anything other than its stated goal. IMO, some people are just looking for a cause.

Women make better astronauts than men do AFAIK, as NASA discovered in the '60s. Given that, I'd have no objection to most or all astronauts being female. Diversity be damned.

But men don't make better DPs/directors/ACs than women, so I do believe it's strange that more women are not occupying the top jobs on productions. But as I said, the ASC has nothing to do with that.
 
DP's are hired by directors and producers. At the indie level where most people get their start, it's usually directors who make that call. I recently had the opportunity to direct my first feature, which was the result of years of writing and fundraising. I literally got teary-eyed when I got that first call sheet and it said "Director" next to my name.
Now after years of dreaming about this opportunity, do you think I'm going to hire the second, third, or fourth best DP I can find just to increase diversity? Of course not. I'm going to hire the most talented person possible, which in my case happened to be a brilliant Puerto Rican man.
The lack of female DPs is not the fault of the ASC. It is the fault of indie directors like me who are doing the hiring during a DPs resume-building years. I would love to be part of the solution instead of the problem, so if someone can explain how I can help, I am definitely all ears.
 
We all have unique work experiences and collaborate within different communities throughout this global industry. The fact that professionals are discussing this on an open forum is positive. However, what is the gender ratio of this reduser forum? This forum has a long way to go right? Also, diversity goes beyond gender and race. This may be rhetorical, but what about professionals with physical handicaps? How many people do you know work on set with a wheelchair, one arm, or let's say even something as minor as missing fingers? This is a very competitive industry, where the "survival of the fittest/creative" applies, but I am optimistic that things are improving.
 
In my experience, the number of female cinematographers and by extension the number of them admitted membership into the ASC is at parity with the interest level of women seeking entry into the craft in general. Having passionately dedicated myself to the study of this craft for over 20 years now, I can attest that the number of women I see attending workshops and seminars is a tiny fraction compared to men. It's just an occupation that predominately attracts men.

I do not see whining articles being written about the lack of men being present in the script supervisor position. That role is practically exclusive to women in the industry. I can count on 1 hand how many times I've seen a man's name associated with that position.

I will take this arguement one step further. For the past several years I have been teaching cinematography at both CamerImage and Global Cinematography Institute and have witnessed the attendance of females at these various institututions in my own classes. It's usually around 1/8 to a 1/4 of the class at most. Typically with 12-15 students for a semester at GCI, there would be 1 to 2 females in the class. It's just the way it is. Forcing some statistical corrective measures doesn't make that situation go away, it just unfairly excludes the demographic actively striving entry into those roles.

The cinematographer should not be a role that anyone can just fill. It's one of the few jobs on set that one really needs to know their shit to excel in or the fate of the entire production hangs in the balance.

I have worked with many female assistants on my crews and while several have worked their way up in the department, not one of them wanted to shoot 2nd unit for me or pursued that sort of promotion. Again, it's just the nature of the job.
 
Chris, it's a bit too dismissive of a real industry problem to say that the demographics for women and minority representation are just simply due to a lack of interest on their parts. Sure, it would be unrealistic to expect 50% of working cinematographers to be women when you don't see 50% of the cinematography students in film schools are currently women, but on the other hand, there are more than the 1% that get to shoot major features, or even the 4% that are in the ASC. Someone at AFI told me that about a third of the cinematography students were women, but even if it were only 25%, that's more than the percentage that ends up in the union and then later in the ASC, so clearly there are trends to discourage their advancement.

My point was just that given the average age of the ASC members, and the track record that they have to accumulate, it's not going to match the demographics of film schools today or even the union today, it's going to reflect a time several years earlier and it also reflects the end result of opportunities given to working cinematographers over decades. In other words, it would be far more practical to look at the problem of gender and minority representation at the other end of the career ladder to see where the problems might be.

I think there is a real problem if it's only 25% being filtered down to 4% and then to 1% -- it doesn't take a genius to see that that would be disheartening and discouraging to an up-and-comer looking for female role models. I just think it is wrong to look at the ASC as being part of the problem; at the level of professionals that they are selecting from, there are currently fewer women who have been working as cinematographers for more than a decade, as opposed to entering the workforce now. In other words, it will rise to more than 4% but the question really is how to we make sure that there are no roadblocks for the women who do want to advance, but it doesn't help to suggest that the lack of advancement of women is entirely their own fault due to lack of interest or lack of drive.
 
David,

I'm not whole-handedly dismissing the fact that by and large opportunities for women in the industry are less than for man. And the article WAS correct in one point, cinematographers like Annette Haellmigk, Maryse Alberti, Rachael Morrison, ect certainly do warrant inclusion into the ASC, they are doing fantastic work. I've been following Annette's work for decades since she was shooting 2nd unit for Jost Vacano. She's among my favorite female cinematographers.

Certainly the ASC has ways to go to catch up with modern times and reflect that in its ranks. The fact that they finally allowed Bill Bennett, a cinematographer that doesn't shoot narrative (TV or features as typically required for membership) is a step in the right direction. There is still a dismissive attititude to commercial/music videos as well. Many of the newest techniques and trends are created and popularized in commercials and videos, that will then trickle into the narrative realm. And many of the cinematographers working in these arenas work with budgets and scales of production on a single commercial larger than some feature films. So the turn away from these members of the community is also old-guard thinking and not current.

My first post reflected my personal experience as I have taught well over 100 students and never had female attendance of 1/3 or more, and I'm not sure about even 1/4. Maybe AFI as an institution has better attraction to women than GCI, I don't know. Another poster claimed HALF of the students graduating were female. That just has not been my experience. In fact, just look at the ranks of those actively talking here on RedUser... This is a forum for those where a camera that is within the reach of persons wishing to learn this craft can reach out and get information. I'm not trying to dismiss women, but there isn't 1 female daily posting on these boards, and I can count the times I have seen posts from females here on the forum. For me, that is alarming. It is CERTAINLY NOT HALF, or even a THIRD, or even a SIXTEENTH of the male contributors here on RedUser. Maybe we as a group are too macho and drive women away from this forum? Again, I don't know. But my original point was in my experience, in evey way possible on set, in classes and on forums, the interest level is just not evident. Perhaps we should address that and encourage more interest in the technical aspects of the industry. But my point is raising a flag and pointing fingers doesn't tell the whole story.

Personally, I encourage ANYONE who has passion for this art to pursue it with vigor. I always support passion and drive in those I meet and try to foster that interest with actual opportunities. Now, I'm teaching a class TONIGHT at GCI, so I'll be curious to see the ACTUAL diversity this month, this year, this decade. I'll report back how we are looking.
 
Whats the percentage of contributions (articles) done to ASC magazine by female cinematographers? When i read magazine every month im seeing male writers mostly.There might be 10-15 popular females shooting music videos in last few years,But they are only shooting,i dont see their contributions in asc.
 
American Cinematographer is much more in step with the times and has covered many female cinematographers in its pages. In fact, the upcoming November issue has a feature story on Jem and the Holograms shot by Alice Brooks. The cinematographers themselves predominately do not write the stories, nor do they get to choose what films, commercials, projects get coverage in the magazine. That duty falls to the editorial staff and its assigned team of writers, both in-house and freelance.

Many years ago AC was much more skewed to only covering ASC cinematographers. Now, the magazing covers big features, indies, foreign films, union, non-union, commercials, music videos, documentaries and even web content. I encourage everyone to pay attention to the writer by-lines as well. Perhaps start following the articles of writers you respond to. If an article really inspires or impresses you, send a letter to the editors. They love hearing feedback.
 
In fact, just look at the ranks of those actively talking here on RedUser... This is a forum for those where a camera that is within the reach of persons wishing to learn this craft can reach out and get information. I'm not trying to dismiss women, but there isn't 1 female daily posting on these boards, and I can count the times I have seen posts from females here on the forum. For me, that is alarming. It is CERTAINLY NOT HALF, or even a THIRD, or even a SIXTEENTH of the male contributors here on RedUser. Maybe we as a group are too macho and drive women away from this forum?

I love Reduser, but let's be honest. I can totally understand why women wouldn't feel comfortable here when every "skin tone test" is of women in their underwear, followed by pages of boner jokes. Not to mention the fact that every Red product is designed to look like bombs and weapons. If you want to cite Reduser as a microcosm of the film industry, then you are basically illustrating how a group of men can inadvertently create an environment that is very uninviting to women.
 
I love Reduser, but let's be honest. I can totally understand why women wouldn't feel comfortable here when every "skin tone test" is of women in their underwear, followed by pages of boner jokes. Not to mention the fact that every Red product is designed to look like bombs and weapons. If you want to cite Reduser as a microcosm of the film industry, then you are basically illustrating how a group of men can inadvertently create an environment that is very uninviting to women.

I love the Red cameras, but this is the single worst thing I know about this place. Living in Sweden, which is one of the most equal countries in the world, reduser really gives me the creeps sometimes. It is ACTUALLY giving me a hard time getting serious using red cameras since there are a lot of women I work with and they stay clear of men's club spaces that reduser seems to be from the outside. I've tried to get some to join, just because it's a fantastic place of knowledge, especially if you're trying to learn the architecture surrounding Red workflow. But there certainly is a "fast cars and chicks"-mentality that I cannot place myself behind. This place can still be the place it is without looking like a mancave. I certainly don't need a mancave, I'm pretty comfortable sharing everything with my fellow female colleagues, but it's embarrassing to see threads after threads of half nude girls "for tests" and other questionable things. I rather see images of old people with scars and wrinkles using alchemy settings for a rough old look, than promist filtered halfnude shots of girls trying to horny up the camera with their gaze. I'm here for the cameras, filmmaking and workflow discussions, not watching nude girls.
 
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