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ARRIFLEX D-21 vs RED

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hi
enybody knows may be the price for Arriflex D-21 camera?
Arri claim that they have full 35mm sensor as red but in the 4:3 proportions so we can use anamorfic lenses,
Lso they claim to do uncompressed RAW data.
I'm wondering how much it cost
 
You can shoot Red with anamorphic lenses. It' been done and looks pretty good.

Check out www.red235.com, there is a link there to download a Nescafe commercial shot with Lomo's and the Red One. A set of Lomo anamorphics is selling for $15,250, a 35mm, 50mm, 75mm and 100mm.
 
4K Hub said:
You can shoot Red with anamorphic lenses. It' been done and looks pretty good.

Check out www.red235.com, there is a link there to download a Nescafe commercial shot with Lomo's and the Red One. A set of Lomo anamorphics is selling for $15,250, a 35mm, 50mm, 75mm and 100mm.
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Interesting, has anyone dealt with Ken Rich before? famous or infamous?
 
"Since the D-21 is the only digital high-end camera with a 4x3 aspect ratio sensor, it can make full use of anamorphic lenses."

A pure HOT AIR from Arri.

Red shot 3K ANA format with a full use of anamorphic lenses even before D-21 was announced.

With RED you can custom your aspect ratio starting from 2:1, 16:9 or 4:3.

Soderbergh's "Che" will show in two weeks at Cannes Festival how he did it with a full anamorphic lenses on RED.

That's a COOL AIR as a true fact from RED.
 
Er yeah, the D20 could also shoot full anamorphic so I think they beat Red to it Sanjin :matrix:

The point Arri are making is that you can shoot anamorphic using the full benefit of the 4:3 sensor - a significant feature IMHO. Be nice if Epic could do the same.
 
martin.kryjom said:
hi
enybody knows may be the price for Arriflex D-21 camera?
Arri claim that they have full 35mm sensor as red but in the 4:3 proportions so we can use anamorfic lenses,
Lso they claim to do uncompressed RAW data.
I'm wondering how much it cost
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By the title of your post I thought you were doing a shoot out. lol
 
martin.kryjom said:
hi
enybody knows may be the price for Arriflex D-21 camera?
Arri claim that they have full 35mm sensor as red but in the 4:3 proportions so we can use anamorfic lenses,
Lso they claim to do uncompressed RAW data.
I'm wondering how much it cost
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Theoretically 120'000$, they told me, but D-21 is not for selling, just for renting, except of some countries like russia, where ARRI have no renting facilities, I was informed at NAB :whistling:
 
ronx said:
Interesting, has anyone dealt with Ken Rich before? famous or infamous?
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I've dealt with Ken Rich a number of times since 1999, both for buying gear and for selling. I've been happy each time, no problems at all.

Matthew Verkler
 
Yep, I want to buy a set of those Lomos, waiting for a email back from him. Once I've got my camera I'd be happy to post some of the results.
 
Daniel Reichenbach said:
Theoretically 120'000$, they told me, but D-21 is not for selling, just for renting, except of some countries like russia, where ARRI have no renting facilities, I was informed at NAB :whistling:
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Only a brand new Russian Tsar(s) can buy Arri D-21 :) .

RED Revolution started somehow in 2007 almost 90 years after the Russian Revolution 1917.
 
from arri rep
There will be several different financial models for customers to obtain the D21. Outright purchase; Leasing with Service & Upgrade package; B to B sub-renting.

All pricing and terms are currently being defined and will be published in the near future,

Regards,

VB
 
Bless those who compare apple and orange.
I hope ignorance is really bliss?

For me the D21 is paper and the RED is green paper money that I can spend.
Cold hard cash baby!

How can you compare a product that you can buy to something that you can only rent with no real market values?
REDONE = $17,500 USD

Get your head check, your brain may be bigger than mine.
Due to swellings.

LOL

Tek

P. S. I can't spell, but I won't compare apple vs orange.
 
Well, the right tool for the right project, some projects will go vor RED some will go D21, and currently there is market for both camera systems.
If you want S35 depht of field with 60fps NOW on digitial, you need to go ARRI D21.

I am a RED camera owner in a couple of weeks myself, but still, i make a camera choice dependent on a project, budget and artistic choice, no need to battle Camera A against Camera B.

Manuel
 
Stephen Webb said:
The point Arri are making is that you can shoot anamorphic using the full benefit of the 4:3 sensor - a significant feature IMHO. Be nice if Epic could do the same.
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With total respect, I never understand this idea when it comes up. RED's sensor may be 16:9 in shape, but it's a 4K sensor! Even if you chop off the sides to shoot in anamorphic mode, you're still left with more resolution than the other guys that have a 4:3 sensor. Maybe it's just a psychological issue, but just because you're not always using the full sensor area doesn't mean there's a problem with the quality of the images. The majority of RED users are still running the camera in 2:1 mode, which cuts off resolution from the total sensor area... and I don't see anything wrong with those images either. :-)
 
Daniel Reichenbach said:
Theoretically 120'000$, they told me, but D-21 is not for selling, just for renting, except of some countries like russia, where ARRI have no renting facilities, I was informed at NAB :whistling:
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I think it was 120000 Euros not $, and yes they are not for selling, unless it is country where there is no ARRI rental. Like a country I am from :*) but I do not think D21 is 6 times better than RED. Is it?
 
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