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Arri HMI vs Arri Tungsten

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Alexey Datsenko

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Of course it is better to buy both for example Arri 1200 and Arri T5000
but for budget around 3K what would be better

1. Take 1 fixture Arri HMI 1200 or
2. Take 2 fixtures Arri Tungsten T5000

With 1200 we can shoot outdoor and indoor with daylight and with orange filter we can get tungsten light for around 600w


And with Arri T5000 we can shoot with tungsten light indoor with 5000 or 2000 or 1000w (with changing the bulbs)
and with CTB filter we can get daylight around 1800w.

So what would be the better:

1. 1 Arri 1200 or
2. Two Arri T5000
 
As long as you will be able to power the 5k's, you will get more light out of them in all situations, especially anything between 2800k - 4000k. They may even outshine the HMI at full 5500k (despite CTB transmission loss). Advantage to the HMI is it can run on a household circuit.

CB
 
Problem with the T5000 is you will never be able to run them on most household/office circuit and they will generate a lot of heat as well.
 
How about two ARRI HMI's? Though I have a couple of 1200's, I'm finding far more flexibility with carrying a compact 575 and a 400 PAR. Lighter, faster and far more options. Besides the inherent advantages of a PAR fixture, with the bare bulb globe, the 400 can be rigged with a Chimera lantern. Dimmable, flicker free and easy to rig.

Agree with earlier comments on the current draw and heat of the T5000's. Not to mention UV.
You want to get the most efficient fixtures for your money - a gennie or electrical tie-ins adds to the cost. HMI's are more efficient. If you are going to spend it, better to put your funds into another light source or controls.

Plus, these sensors like daylight color temps more than tungsten.
 
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Maz Mawlawi said:
Problem with the T5000 is you will never be able to run them on most household/office circuit and they will generate a lot of heat as well.
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But it is possible to change bulb to 2000w and we will get 2000w for household.
 
I think in the long-term the HMI will serve you better. If I had a shoot tomorrow and all I could choose was from this poor selection, then I'd have to go with the 2 tungsten units. Either way, this is a poor selection of lighting fixtures.
 
I use Tungsten lighting all of the time go with that one, HMI lights were created for film cameras to have more light at a higher speed rate instead of using a ton of lights to get the shot. With cameras being set to almost shoot off moon light the HMI lights would be over kill on your movie and pocket.
 
Alexey Datsenko said:
But it is possible to change bulb to 2000w and we will get 2000w for household.
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True. I was referring to using them at 5000w. I just think HMI are much better in light output and are much more versatile than Tungsten. I would prefer owning a 1.2k hmi over a 5k tungsten anytime...just my opinion though.
 
I would give up a truck load of 5k's for a couple of 1.2's
 
One light is allways better than two lights. ;-)

+1 for the 1200 as you can plug it in every where and can shoot a nice bunch of things on your own. But it's like asking : is it better to buy 2 helicopters or 1 small jet?

Pat
 
Ok maybe Arri 1200 is better choice but what about ballast?
Can HMI work without ballast? Ballast is plus 3K. And Will be it in this case flicker-free without ballast? or it will be with flicker effect?
 
Alexey Datsenko said:
Ok maybe Arri 1200 is better choice but what about ballast?
Can HMI work without ballast? Ballast is plus 3K. And Will be it in this case flicker-free without ballast? or it will be with flicker effect?
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Hello Alexey,

Yes HMI need the ballast. You can read a bit on HMI technology on the net or even experience to work with it by renting one or helping to shoot a short film. You'll learn best by doing.

Pat
 
If 1200 can't work without ballast the price will be 3k for 1200 plus 3K for ballast it is 6K for 1200, in this is case we have choice:

1. 1 Arri HMI 1200
2. or 4 Kinoflo
3. or 4 Arri T5000
4. or 4 Chines Came HMI 1200
 
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