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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

"Apple scaling Final Cut Studio apps to fit prosumers"

Sad sad times

Sad sad times

I guess it was inevitable... but if true it's going to make our lives harder in the mid term.

Only hard regular use by professionals will catch all the edge cases that cause so many bugs, and that's one reason why FCP is more stable for longer complex projects than PP is IMO. But perhaps this will serve as a forcing function to get Premier into a healthier state.

I'm not a zealot, I don't much care, I just want something that is stable, provides good functionality, and is updated regularly to keep pace with the rapidly evolving ecosystem in which we live.

Steve
 
If Ubillos pulls a "New Coke" (uh, I mean an iMovie '08) on Final Cut Studio, I think I'm seriously going to cry. Perhaps it's time to brush up on my Premiere and AE skills?

-michael zaletel
 
been trying to look for an excuse to use CS5 for any live projects, but I still wind back up in FCP, there are certain things I typically cut all the time that Premiere literally can't do. I do a lot of multicam editing, whether it be docu style, corporate video style, music videos, whatever. I thought I'd give CS5 a whirl since I could take advantage of some 64 bit raw power... I haven't used premiere since 7.0 keep in mind.

It only allows multicam up to 4 cameras. I usually multicam about 6 or more, this time around I had 13 camera views. I could have done it old school but FCP allows up to 128 cameras if your drives and computer is fast enough. Maybe next time PP... please, 64 bit pro apps. PLEASE!!!
 
looks to me like AVID is about to take back what was lost to Final Cut in the first place. They are moving in a good direction with MC5.0, while it seems Final Cut is going down the path to becoming a deluxe iMovie.

Sad if that's the case. Was hoping for an Extreme version, not a Lite version.
 
I'll give it a look- I'd be a lot happier with a more tightly integrated suite even if it is dumbed down a bit. As it is I spend half my time trying to get RED timelines into Color without too much pain.

Also it should be mentioned there's very little real meat in that story other than the Randy Ubillos rumor. Yes Randy redesigned iMovie, but he was also the original designer of FCP (not too mention Adobe Premiere)... If there's anyone from whom I'd be interested in seeing what a new Pro Apps NLE in 2010 looks like it would be from him.

Noah
 
Will be interesting to see what they do to FCP. It is 2010, I would hope things get easier. and better. Being able to burn Blu Ray directly from FCP would be fantastic, it's a bit of pain right now to go through encore and titanium right now with a feature.
 
Noah Kadner said:
Care to elaborate? FCP went far further and has endured far more than Lightworks ever did.

Noah
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Yep.

It's going free and open source next quarter.

If FCP does not improve, you will have access to a very professional editing tool for FREE as of next month. It has almost every "critical" feature FCP does and is really a great piece of editing software with an impressive list of credits and editors still using it.

FCS has needed a much need overhaul for a long time. Unless it turn into a "super app" like smoke. It might be a prosumer answer for professional editing.

David
 
I dunno- Lightworks is pretty fringe. I've personally seen it in use on exactly one production over the past decade or so while all others were FCP or Avid. I don't see what major effect it going open source will have on FCP. Just because something is free doesn't mean a majority of folks will suddenly choose to use it.

FCP's chief competitor is Avid and to a lesser degree Premiere. FCP and Avid are the two NLEs you're almost guaranteed to see one or the other on most productions.

On the Mac- Autodesk's Smoke is about the most intriguing current development. Though with its relatively sky-high pricepoint I don't see it achieving critical mass among most FCP users. Sure FCP is getting long in the tooth but it still does the job for me...

Noah
 
In theory, wouldn't the lack of Pro Apps directly effect sales of the Tower Macs?
 
Noah Kadner said:
On the Mac- Autodesk's Smoke is about the most intriguing current development. Though with its relatively sky-high pricepoint I don't see it achieving critical mass among most FCP users. Sure FCP is getting long in the tooth but it still does the job for me...

Noah
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Noah,

I was a very early adopter of FCP (cutting on floptical drives) and before that on laser disk with editdroid.

We saw how fast FCP took off. It's good tool, but FCP, like AVID has never become a better "editing" tool. It's only become a better "finishing" tool.

If a bunch of people start on the lightworks wave (they have like 9000 people signed up for the free update) it could get interesting, plus it is LINUX, WINDOWS and MAC, which no offering in the NLE game is right now.

David
 
DVD Studio Pro 2 was a more user friendly app AND vastly superior to DVD SP 1, so maybe all will be fine. They have a kind of track record with the basic, normal and advanced modes.

They are a smart company. I am sure it won't be a long drawn out guessing game...........................................

;-)

Jeff
 
9000 signed up for a free app vs. millions of FCP users? That sounds pretty fringe to me. But anyways the more the merrier.

Noah
 
Noah Kadner said:
9000 signed up for a free app vs. millions of FCP users? That sounds pretty fringe to me. But anyways the more the merrier.

Noah
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Agree,

but

Just like the camera world was ready for RED. I think the editing world is ready for a big change-up too.

David
 
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