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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Anyone use a Cinesaddle with a RED ONE?

The marsupial also comes with a car rigging kit - some metal hangers that'll fit in door frames and some rope. I don't know if I'd trust it for my red but if you wanted to do a quick car mount with say an HVX, it could come in useful. It also makes a great seat and pillow.
I've had one for about 5 years and love it.
Shane.
 
Can these cinesaddles be used to mount (set) a Red One on the windowsill of a moving car to stabilize the camera and absorb some of the shocks and bumps and vibrations coming from the tires through the body of the car? I am really in need of some kind of way to shoot smoothly from a moving car or jeep.
 
Tom said:
Can these cinesaddles be used to mount (set) a Red One on the windowsill of a moving car to stabilize the camera and absorb some of the shocks and bumps and vibrations coming from the tires through the body of the car? I am really in need of some kind of way to shoot smoothly from a moving car or jeep.
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hopefully someone can confirm this, but according to the manufacturer you can indeed use it for that purpose.

And sry for running this into the ground, but are people suggesting getting the large marsupial version over the original version?
 
Tom said:
Can these cinesaddles be used to mount (set) a Red One on the windowsill of a moving car to stabilize the camera and absorb some of the shocks and bumps and vibrations coming from the tires through the body of the car? I am really in need of some kind of way to shoot smoothly from a moving car or jeep.
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They can, take a look at some of the videos on the cinesaddle website, one of them shows it being used for just this purpose.However, I usually like to thread a rubber bungie strap through the handle above the door and hook it onto the camera. The rubber bungie strap (black one, not the multicolored one) takes lot of the vibration out of the shot and you can still pan.
Shane.
 
Brandon said:
And sry for running this into the ground, but are people suggesting getting the large marsupial version over the original version?
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Go for the marsupial, the pocket can come in handy.
 
$500 for what the gun industry sells for $50 seems kinda gippy to me. (sigh)
 
Shawn, can you link to the $50 version?
 
Be my guest trying to fit a RED One on that usefully. The Cine Saddle is very inexpensive considering what you get out of it.
 
Tom said:
Can these cinesaddles be used to mount (set) a Red One on the windowsill of a moving car to stabilize the camera and absorb some of the shocks and bumps and vibrations coming from the tires through the body of the car? I am really in need of some kind of way to shoot smoothly from a moving car or jeep.
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Tom, I picked up one of these to do just that...I needed something to absorb the shock with my HVX and although I was set off by the price tag, it would have cost the same to rent car rig with insurance etc and I needed the shot asap. EU client wanted a taxi going over the brooklyn Bridge for a cable company commercial...in the end this damn camera bean bag did the job, I was surprised it came with all the rigging to mount camera to front of car as well even though I did not use at the time. http://cinekinetic.com/new/ (video on this page)

We rented a convertible and dropped the top and shot out the rear of the car, the cinesaddle absorbed much of the shock and the rest I used smoothcam in post.

I ended up strapping this to the bottom of my RED at burning man as well where it lived for the next two weeks, I cold comfortably run, gun, and crash this rig anywhere with the comfort and shock absorbing safety and protection of the bag. Even the small one will work fine with RED as long as your not dealing with massive glass.
cheers.
 
Cine Saddle Pics

Cine Saddle Pics

Here are a couple pics
 
Just remember to allow a bit of room for the air vents on the bottom of Red to breathe. On shoots we normally put an Astro Products foam thingie between the camera and the Cinesaddle so that the foam's rigidity prevents the Cinesaddle from fitting too snugly and blocking off the vents.

HTH

Paul
 
I've rented the large Marsupial Cine Saddle on a budget medium length (turned feature) shot on DigiBeta for some car shots and was very satisfied.

The system is well thought of and very clearly explained in the provided manual. I fell in love with their hook system. It's safe and works very fast. Very KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). The camera we used, the Sony DVW-700WS, was a 20something pound gulf war veteran. Having a tape deck onboard sure brings the weigh up, but the saddle provided roping and hooks handled it well. I figure a lightweight RED setup can be safely rigged with the instructions they provide and a heavier one if you have a creative boy scout gaffer. Nevertheless, if the glass on the camera was worth more than 7k$, I'd definitely look into something else for a car rig. Not that it wouldn't be safe... it just wouldn't make me feel safe.

I have to say the saddle is comfortable to sit and sleep on, as advertised. And the pouch is very handy, but you can't put anything fragile or expensive in there as it's too easy to forget it's in there... since it's so nice to sit on.

Here's bits of the project shot on the saddle. For car work I like the fact that the camera's movement is somewhat independent of the car's. I thought it fit well the trashy natural light look the that project in particular. The director wanted the project to be a documentary when he had the original idea and the aesthetic stuck.

The last shot of the sequence is from rigged from the door opening looking inwards. Fun, and stable! Sorry if I don't have pics of the rigs. It was good looking, but we didn't have time for that. ;)
 
My Red has been used with a cine saddle to do car shots. However we were on a low loader with the dop operating the camera from the car bonnet. i am still a bit worried about the idea of using the mounting ropes alone.
 
I think i would want to use a couple of suction cups and a safety cable as well as the mounting ropes. Has any one got any photos of a red bonnet mounted with just a cine saddle and mounting ropes.
 
Always attach with ratchet straps NOT ropes,but honestly use a proper bonnet beam mount or compressor suction mount far safer and infinitely more adjustable you can even mount lamps
 
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