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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Anyone tried these PL mounts?

Congrats on the standards. Absolutely great lenses.

**Edited to reflect the consensus below: if you want to save money, this is a good choice.

One reason to consider the Red mount is less about flex and tight tolerance, and more about perceived standards. Yes, the electronics might benefit you in the future (VFX, new electronic lenses, etc), but some renters are judgmental, and distrust third party products. If you do get a third party one, make absolutely sure it has been certified by Red, or your warranty is void. If you're willing to take that risk I would at least buy one from someone whose other mounts are Red certified. (According to the thread posted below, this one is.)

I can understand why Jarred would issue no certifications whatsoever for PL mounts--they don't want a parade of PL mounts across their cameras, they want their Titanium as the standard.

I don't own any PL glass, and it was tricky for me to drop 2 grand on one. But I don't want to spend time convincing everyone I rent to that an unfamiliar mount is kosher. If you don't care what other people think / don't rent your camera, or your warranty is almost up anyway, try it out. He gives you a 7-day trial period.
 
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I have other mounts made by him, they are very nicely made. I haven't had personal experience with the epic PL mount, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. I think they are red approved, but I would check. There really isn't that much to a PL mount and the titanium red version is overkill. Actually, The one you linked to might actually work better as the inner diameter of the Ti mount is more than a little snug and can make mounting some lenses a pain in the ass.

Nick
 
Not the PL mount but their other mounts are very good. Nicely made and accurate.
 
Agreed with Nick on the snugness of the Titanium mount. When you're dealing with people who are uncertain about the Red workflow, the big shiny chunk of metal on the front is something they're used to seeing--giving them something else is just one more uncertainty.

Again ignore this completely if you don't rent out your camera.
 
If you wwork with clients and something goes wrong with the lens or focusing and your mount might be the first thing production will put the blame on.
Ti is a trusted value and an expected standard by prods and ACs. Pl is a pro standard, don't introduce a weak link in your workflow.

They might be great mounts, I don't know it at all. Just giving you my AC/operator point of Vue.

On the other hand, if you are the only operator and/or uses it for mersinal use, go with the 3rd party ones.
 
It's an incredibly simple mechanical device. It's really just a fancy nut. If the ffd is right you can't really go wrong. For a savings of $1500, I wouldn't think twice about buying one. In fact, I am now thinking about buying one just because the existing one on the epic is a pain in the ass ;-)

Nick
 
A lot of ACs prefer the third party mounts... The red mount has a very tight tolerance, and it's very bulky when there is AKS around. Not much can go wrong with a simple mount, just screw the four screws in securely. If something is going to give and break, it's likely those four screws and not the mount. Clients have never noticed or said anything, even on multicamera shoots.

If you need lens info for VFX I have found you can buy a lot of pens and paper for the $1500 you save. Isn't scripty writing that stuff down anyway for VFX? You can try asking scripty nicely for extra verbose notes on the VFX setups, that has worked for me in the past when the on set VFX super was not present, or didn't want to record their own notes.

You do not need to worry so much about temperature differences with these simple screw mounts, because that seriously almost never comes up in real life, and when it does, you can often just unscrew the lock one more rotation to give yourself enough room if things have expanded.

A PL mount is indeed a nut that pinches some metal against some other metal. There is no magic involved, and it is relatively easy to manufacture such devices these days with enough strength to survive pretty much any lens (heavy lenses get support anyway, right?), and with tight enough tolerance to ensure perfect backfocus.

If cash is tight, this seems like a very reasonable place to save $1500.
 
Assuming the mount is of good quality and this manufacturer makes great mounts as do Red. The best thing you can do with it is collimate it.
 
i got this mount and Ti is just a fancy word nothing else..and its not standart in cinema industry nobody cares about ti mount
saves you 1500$ and buy something else and it does job the done
 
And here's a quote from the thread (from the manufacturer):

krzysztof jankowski said:
Hello RED users

Some time ago we sent our mounts for Epic/Scarlet cameras to RED for testing. We've recently got answer from mr Chad Koeller that: " Our engineers have finished testing your lens mounts and they appear to be OK from a mechanical standpoint" .
I hope that is enough proof of theirs quality.
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