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Anyone successfully adopted Cuda for Mac?

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I was playing around with CS5 and it feels really nice to be able to work natively, edit with the right and latest look of the metadata, then I thought maybe I should try adopting the Cuda for the Mac Pro. There are FX4800 and GTX285 available and has anyone successfully adopted the Cuda engine with Premiere Pro CS5?

What would the GTX285 be like, will it be enough to just playback single stream 4K?
 
I just got CS5 as well and am now thinking of upgrading the video card in my mac pro in anticipation of editing Scarlet footage eventually on this system. Would be nice if someone out there had a lot of the different cards and could benchmark the performance between them.

I laughed when the AE CS5 came up, the load up screen is so bizarre, I thought something was wrong with the program! :) Till I realized their triangle design was on purpose.
 
Kaku Ito said:
I was playing around with CS5 and it feels really nice to be able to work natively, edit with the right and latest look of the metadata, then I thought maybe I should try adopting the Cuda for the Mac Pro. There are FX4800 and GTX285 available and has anyone successfully adopted the Cuda engine with Premiere Pro CS5?

What would the GTX285 be like, will it be enough to just playback single stream 4K?
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Its not the the Cuda that does the playback its your regular CPUs and the mercury engine. The realtime debayering is done by the Cuda engine. With Red footage I have personally had up to six layers of full res 4k running up to 11 minutes with color correction and dynamic links keys on a GTX285.
 
Hey, thanks.

I have the latest Mac Pro and the CPU power is not playing back 4K at full resolution at all. I need to set the resolution down to 1/4 to play smoothly. I setup my system with high performance, so I thought I needed the Cuda help. But from your report and others I found discussed in the other thread, it seems worth buying the GTX285, so I will get it today. Then buy 4800 after checking out how it works.
 
Kaku Ito said:
Hey, thanks.

I have the latest Mac Pro and the CPU power is not playing back 4K at full resolution at all. I need to set the resolution down to 1/4 to play smoothly. I setup my system with high performance, so I thought I needed the Cuda help. But from your report and others I found discussed in the other thread, it seems worth buying the GTX285, so I will get it today. Then buy 4800 after checking out how it works.
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there is something definitely wrong with your system setup then, because even without a Cuda card you should be able to playback 4k in realtime
 
Rick Burnett said:
I laughed when the AE CS5 came up, the load up screen is so bizarre, I thought something was wrong with the program! :) Till I realized their triangle design was on purpose.
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The splash screens look pretty cool but the application UI design is just shocking... On Windows, I think CS3 was the best. Now they replace the standard top part of the window in some of the apps (like Photoshop) and the top menus with an ugly, way-too-tall combined mess, and all the tabs and other elements in the UI look far worse than they used to, among many other things...

And then on Mac OS X, well, I think 35 pages of the Adobe UI Gripes blog speaks for itself.
 
@ Kaku: Now that Adobe lifted the restrictions on the GTX 285, the Quadro FX 4800 will not get you that much more than the GTX 285, and it's already outdated (I tested both of them). I'd stick with the GTX 285 and wait which new NVidia cards Adobe will support.

Regarding 4K, there may be a misunderstanding here. PPro will play RED 4K footage, but not display it in 4K. But then, who has such a screen?
 
Hi Uli,

I'm not so much into really utilize adobe workflow but with all of the hype, I thought I could kinda experience the hype myself, lol.

So, all of the reports talking about the multiple layers of 4K footage playing back realtime with some filters applied is just playing 4K files in other smaller resolutions and not with full resolution?
 
Exactly! But far better than the performance of proxies in FCP…
 
I think I'm too used to using RED ROCKET :).

I got the GTX today, so I will follow up with the report, too.
 
shoot sorry guys i forgot this thread was about macs. my tests were done on a pc. my mistake
 
Been using the GTX with CS5 for a while now and find it to be best card for the buck.
Not to mention this is also the card BMD has qualified for Resolve on OSX.
Pay attention this week and see if we get some new Mac Pro's and new card options.
 
Jim Geduldick said:
Been using the GTX with CS5 for a while now and find it to be best card for the buck.
Not to mention this is also the card BMD has qualified for Resolve on OSX.
Pay attention this week and see if we get some new Mac Pro's and new card options.
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WWDC, I cant wait to hear what Apple has up its sleeves.
 
Jim Geduldick said:
Not to mention this is also the card BMD has qualified for Resolve on OSX.
Pay attention this week and see if we get some new Mac Pro's and new card options.
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That's great to know Jim, thanks.
 
shashbugu said:
Its not the the Cuda that does the playback its your regular CPUs and the mercury engine. The realtime debayering is done by the Cuda engine. With Red footage I have personally had up to six layers of full res 4k running up to 11 minutes with color correction and dynamic links keys on a GTX285.
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Is that with the debayer set to full?
 
CS5 and GTX 285

CS5 and GTX 285

I have adopted this and I am so happy that I can go back to Adobe Premiere after being forced to adopt FCP since they were the early, only exclusive, supporter of Red technology.

Now, with CUDA and Mercury Engine, it will be a very sloppy decision if it is not, at least, tried. The rendering/transcoding is about 10:1 based on my experience.

We completed the cut of a feature using FCP since the CS5 option was not available at that time. However, now that CS5 is available, the final steps have been basically done by creating XMLs ot of FCP, and opening them (very successfully I must say) in Premiere Pro.

A very happy customer,
 
Almost bought a GTX 285...then I realized I had a 2006 Mac Pro. I went ahead and got the 8800GT since it is about 10x the performance of the 7300GT that came with it, but I do not believe I can use the mercury engine because it has only 512Mbytes of memory on it and I read you need a minimum of 768Mbytes. Will try it anyways :)
 
Well, I am still happy as two posts above. The problem with the OS X 10.6.4 and the interference with CUDA is really irritating. Specially since the fix has been announced and is available for OS X 10.6.4 and CUDA Interference, but the link for the new build firmware is broken (both, for GTX and for Quadro. :violin:
 
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