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Anyone read Mac Rumors lately...

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Not good Mac Pro news...WTF

www.macrumors.com


"- Desktops: Kuo notes that the iMac redesign has been well-received, but it appears that he does not see Retina displays coming to the lineup in 2013. He simply predicts a shift to the Haswell platform for the iMac and Mac mini in the fourth quarter of the year. Kuo's report does not address a new Mac Pro, even though Apple CEO Tim Cook had personally shared that a significant update for the line was due in 2013. "

What's the Haswell Platform?


Jeff?
 
Haswell is Intel's next mainstream architecture, replacing Ivy Bridge in Q3 2013. It is focused on mobile computing (power management) and GPU performance. Ivy Bridge EP (Xeon E5 2xxx V2) was last expected in late Q3. If there's a new Mac Pro coming, it should release towards the end of 2013 or early 2014.
 
hmm... well, the analyst missed Tim Cook's statement about the MacPro... I don't expect that he lied, but only time will tell?
 
I think it all depends on what their planned future architecture for the iMac/ Macbook pro's look like, considering thunderbolt etc. If they feel that they can create fast enough computers. That can be expanded through thunderbolt. They might scrap mac pro completely. I don't think Tim lied, but things change and I don't think Apple want to completely eliminate the Pro side - but they are known for being early adapters in what they think the future is. The way I see it macbook pro's already functions nicely with thunderbolt - imagine when that becomes faster and more available. So I believe there's a possibility for mac pro's to be extinct, but I don't think it's necessarily now.
 
Fredrik Callinggard said:
I think it all depends on what their planned future architecture for the iMac/ Macbook pro's look like, considering thunderbolt etc. If they feel that they can create fast enough computers. That can be expanded through thunderbolt. They might scrap mac pro completely. I don't think Tim lied, but things change and I don't think Apple want to completely eliminate the Pro side - but they are known for being early adapters in what they think the future is. The way I see it macbook pro's already functions nicely with thunderbolt - imagine when that becomes faster and more available. So I believe there's a possibility for mac pro's to be extinct, but I don't think it's necessarily now.
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Only issue with that, is that Thunderbolt isn't "fast enough"...
 
There has also been news of a new product and manufacturing plant being built in the USA. Based on the investment made it would appear likely that this could be the new Mac Pro. I am still hopeful there will be a new high end option from apple. Hopefully something along the lines of the new Xi3 modular computers. Time is ticking though as Martin stated I would hate to feel forced to go the PC route.
 
N_Villers said:
There has also been news of a new product and manufacturing plant being built in the USA. Based on the investment made it would appear likely that this could be the new Mac Pro. I am still hopeful there will be a new high end option from apple. Hopefully something along the lines of the new Xi3 modular computers. Time is ticking though as Martin stated I would hate to feel forced to go the PC route.
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Thought that was confirmed to be for the mini...
 
I wouldn't be so sure. I think the US line is the Macpro. All this "analyst data" comes from analysing supplier chains, and most products come from the same place. I think he couldn't talk about the macpro because its built in the US, so no leaks from suppliers...
 
The guy is just an analyst and doesn't know anything more about what goes on within Apple's walls than I do...

New Mac Pro is still coming... However, don't be shocked if Apple ditches the old tower design. I'll be shocked if they don't.

USA production is the Mac Mini, Airport units and Time Capsule units. That may change in the future, but for now the only system being manufactured / assembled in the USA by Apple is the mini. Foxconn is establishing USA facilities and will probably be bringing the production of other items to the USA, quite possibly one of the upcoming iPad models. Or possibly the oft-rumored new TV.
 
Gunleik Groven said:
Only issue with that, is that Thunderbolt isn't "fast enough"...
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Not for PCIe cards, no. But what if you could eliminate the need for those cards in the first place? Red Rocket is getting close to being unnecessary; Thunderbolt works great for storage I/O; having image I/O is very important, but you don't need nearly as much plumbing as you did back when everything was tape . . .

That leaves Graphics Cards, which, again, if they get powerful enough (which is hard to imagine, but everything is still getting better and smaller all the time) you won't need to eat up Thunderbolt for, it'll just be internal.

Yes, hard to imagine *now*, but I don't think the days of laptops replacing all towers are as far off as people think. We live in the future...
 
If you really want a new mac pro sooner than later - petition apple to drop the reliance on the Xeon. We are all waiting.

Thunderbolt and Xeon aren't even figured out yet according to Intel.

Unfortunately, you can't do a 24 core mac pro without a Xeon, so we wait.

I personally wouldn't mind a six core i7 in a tower.
 
When are the MIC going into production. I have a feeling that the new Mac Pro will be a 4k Imac with MIC for 15K. If I was running the show at apple that's what I would be making.

What's the word on the street pertaining to the "fusion" drive in the Imac now? anyone know what data rate that thing can push...

MIC is the answer to all of our problems it can't come fast enough.
 
Fredrik Callinggard said:
I think it all depends on what their planned future architecture for the iMac/ Macbook pro's look like, considering thunderbolt etc. If they feel that they can create fast enough computers. That can be expanded through thunderbolt. They might scrap mac pro completely. I don't think Tim lied, but things change and I don't think Apple want to completely eliminate the Pro side - but they are known for being early adapters in what they think the future is. The way I see it macbook pro's already functions nicely with thunderbolt - imagine when that becomes faster and more available. So I believe there's a possibility for mac pro's to be extinct, but I don't think it's necessarily now.
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I tend to agree....

I'm knocking out work quicker out of my new laptop, faster then what my 12core could give me.... and Im portable..... Sad but true.
 
Paul E. McCarthy said:
When are the MIC going into production. I have a feeling that the new Mac Pro will be a 4k Imac with MIC for 15K. If I was running the show at apple that's what I would be making.
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Never. Everything Apple does is push the advanced stuff out to as many people as possible without sacrificing quality. At least, not the qualities that they care about. A $15K anything won't happen. It's completely antithetical to their business model, and creates too large of a gap; if you look at their entire product line, each device fits a specific niche across a linear spectrum, all the way from the iPod shuffle, up to the Mac Pro. A $15k computer would create an enormous gap between it and the iMac. That, and the vast majority of people waiting for the next gen Mac Pro wouldn't have the scratch to get a $15k computer, so rather than ending the whining, it would only amplify it.

As for MIC, well, that tech is droolworthy. I can't wait to harness it.
 
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