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Any Possibility of a Scarlet Update?

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Alan Sangma said:
I agree that it could penetrate the industry at least in terms of price-point.
I wonder how it will fair in 'mind-market' as it were.
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I think it will fare very well with those that are truly interested in a higher than HD resolution digital cinema raw format camera with a broad range of features that HD video cameras in its price range do not provide.

Those that are willing to compromise image quality or functionality for other priorities like 35mm shallow DOF, or more convenient video work flows, or who can't realistically afford it when you look at the total price of a practical field production package will look elsewhere. There are plenty of choices in the under $10k HD market these days.
 
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Yeah I'm certainly looking forward to the possibility of picking up a Scarlet or two myself. I am not positive yet on what I'm going to do, there are some career-related events I just have to see what happens before I know for sure what I want or what I need.

Ideally, I'll be picking up a fixed lens Scarlet and an interchangeable lens Scarlet on the higher end, because I'd like to use the fixed lens for corporate work replacing my HVX200 on higher-end client projects, and then use the higher end Scarlet to save on production costs for feature filmmaking. But at the same time, who knows if it's even a wise idea at this point. I'm directing my first feature June 1, we're shooting with the RED (so excited), and if I owned that camera and a good package it would have saved cash in the budget, but no matter as I would have had less money to spend anyway, so it's best that I'm renting. That being said, if this film is a success, I'm sure I'll be doing several other indie films before I would have a large enough budget not to care about owning the camera anymore. As a writer-director-producer, I'm not even sure it makes sense to own a camera I'd use that infrequently just to shoot features. Maybe it's cheaper just to rent, unless I have other DPs I know who could make use of my gear.

But I know that if I continue with corporate work (which is also up in the air), then I will need a 3K Scarlet to replace the HVX200s. Even then, that requires a high enough level of success at corporate work (we're a startup, just plugging away) to justify the additional expense.
 
You lost me. I went ahead and bought a 7D. I love it. Great picture, low light, and dof with fast lens. The sound requires a little work around but it is easy enough to fix. Also, the batteries are so small, cheap, and last a long time. Best is the CF cards, just pop them in a CF reader and copy to hd.
 
Linda Barzini said:
You lost me. I went ahead and bought a 7D. I love it. Great picture, low light, and dof with fast lens. The sound requires a little work around but it is easy enough to fix. Also, the batteries are so small, cheap, and last a long time. Best is the CF cards, just pop them in a CF reader and copy to hd.
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Linda... you probably didn't get the memo. DSLRs are over at DVXuser. Lots of threads there. We are happy you are happy with your new Canon.

Jim
 
Linda Barzini said:
You lost me. I went ahead and bought a 7D. I love it. Great picture, low light, and dof with fast lens. The sound requires a little work around but it is easy enough to fix. Also, the batteries are so small, cheap, and last a long time. Best is the CF cards, just pop them in a CF reader and copy to hd.
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Linda Barzini? Let me guess, you are the granddaughter of the fictional Don Emilio Barzini in the Godfather? eh hem :troll:

regardless, that 7D will be for sale in less than 6 months on here... and for a lot less than you paid for it.
 
Linda Barzini said:
You lost me. I went ahead and bought a 7D. I love it. Great picture, low light, and dof with fast lens. The sound requires a little work around but it is easy enough to fix. Also, the batteries are so small, cheap, and last a long time. Best is the CF cards, just pop them in a CF reader and copy to hd.
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Linda, first of all, welcome, and if I were to give you ANY suggestions I would say this.
:emote_22_yikes: get out while you still can.

The truth is that within a few months time, Scarlet will be a available and will create such a market for 7D's that they will be almost un-sellable.

I recently sold mine, then waiting for info on the Scarlet release, had to go out and buy again in order to do a project that I wanted, then sold again. I actually was able to push back the project, and am now without anything just waiting for the day that I can get my soon to be 4th child. Because it will be just that, a baby of mine.

But all kidding aside, the image quality of what we are ALL expecting to see from the Scarlet will be so much better than that from the 5/7D's that it won't even be funny. Have a look at the Izzy video, which was from a simple test bed, and you'll see EXACTLY what I'm referring to.

All in all it's your cam, your money, and your decision, I just would hate for you to kick yourself in the butt in 4months.
 
Continuing to talk about DSLRs continues the discussion on DSLRs. We have been down this path on a million threads already. When a troll comes along, the best thing to do is to ignore the troll and keep the thread on target. The more you respond, the more other people start bashing around this and that and every other opinion in the world.

I'm getting tired of watching countless threads having to be closed because people keep pushing this issue over and over. It fragments our discussions and separates the information and is one of the reasons it takes me FOREVER sometimes to find information that has been posted on this site.

To bastardize Smokey the Bear "Only you can prevent DSLR discusion!" <finger pointed at you>
 
A lot of things about the Scarlet will be trickle down features from their R1 / Epic line. Things beginners wouldn't even think of like a back focus adjustment and solid breech lock hybrid nikon and canon ef mounts. In my experience its always better to buy from the entry level of a gear company designed for professionals, than the top of the line from a gear co. who sells to consumers.
 
Linda Barzini said:
You lost me. I went ahead and bought a 7D. I love it. Great picture, low light, and dof with fast lens. The sound requires a little work around but it is easy enough to fix. Also, the batteries are so small, cheap, and last a long time. Best is the CF cards, just pop them in a CF reader and copy to hd.
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It seems a tad odd to jump into a forum and tell the company they've bought a 7d. Clearly this will be filed away under the classic 'Using the tools currently availible' folder.

I would imagine most users are currently using *insert camera of your choice here* on their projects in anticipation of the Scarlet program launching. I tend to sigh when I read that someone got fed up of waiting for a Scarlet and bought a DSLR instead.
Roll-on mid-may when (hopefully) Jim will release some info that will drown out the nonsense.
 
What I don't get is the widespread opinion (on here) that the two are mutually exclusive?

I've had a 5DII for 16 months now and it has served me well.... I think the DSLR fad is actually beneficial to RED.... if it weren't for these low budget cameras... chances are I would have gone and blown my Scarlet budget on an EX3 or something.

Ignore the troll posts.... but embrace the fact that there was a stop gap to tide alot of us over.
 
Jim Retar said:
What I don't get is the widespread opinion (on here) that the two are mutually exclusive?

I've had a 5DII for 16 months now and it has served me well.... I think the DSLR fad is actually beneficial to RED.... if it weren't for these low budget cameras... chances are I would have gone and blown my Scarlet budget on an EX3 or something.

Ignore the troll posts.... but embrace the fact that there was a stop gap to tide alot of us over.
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Not mutually exclusive, but also not comparable either.
The argument of 'what is vs. what is going to be' seems to become an exercise in personal choice over any sensible discussion. I agree that DSLRs are a good stop-gap, a learning tool even.
 
K. cromwell said:
Just wait and you'll understand shortly... Quality takes time.
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Well, you're kind of backing up my point...

i'm in no rush, I have my eye on the s35 and don't expect it to be out for a long time yet.... but I think people might be getting over excited about the May announcement. Even if it is some kind of reservation/preorder system.... the camera still seems some way off. Tattoo hasn't even started yet (to my knowledge).

The "you'll regret buying that 7D in a few months" type posts seem a little ahead of themselves. Like I said though, hopefully i'm wrong.
 
Yea we'll see I just think there's a chance orders can be taken this year, and possibly a shipping December January (which is less than a year).

I do see your point though the S35 is tempting, and if I save enough by then I'd buy one and just skip the fixed.
 
Yea, I think late 2010 sounds about right for 2/3".... I will be sorely tempted... it will be so hard to watch everyone making amazing work with their 2/3" and Epics..... but the s35 seems like the camera to last me for many years and sits perfectly in my price range.
 
Jim Retar said:
What I don't get is the widespread opinion (on here) that the two are mutually exclusive?

I've had a 5DII for 16 months now and it has served me well.... I think the DSLR fad is actually beneficial to RED.... if it weren't for these low budget cameras... chances are I would have gone and blown my Scarlet budget on an EX3 or something.

Ignore the troll posts.... but embrace the fact that there was a stop gap to tide alot of us over.
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DSLR makes a nice still cam and B cam for the ultra shallow DOF look beauty shots to go with a Scarlet.
 
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