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Announcing WEAPON DRAGON 6k Magnesium

Amazing...............Just 3moths before I had upgraded to Dragon,now new weapon coming out.........so I have to wait for the fund coming out for next upgrade.Thank you Red I started with Scarlet, now I own the Epic Dragon.thanks for the Upgrade path.


Sunil Prem
 
Andrae Palmer said:
Anyone know if the RED Weapon Magnesium will have an upgrade path to 8K Vista Vision? I would like to know this info to see what junction we are at.... I'm only interested in the 8K Vista Vision upgrade path.
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They haven't said this won't happen, but reading all of the subtext regarding the 8K upgrade and the carbon fiber itself, you'd need to be on the CF boat to migrate to 8K and beyond. Magnesium is a lesser-expensive Weapon that does not appear to have a future beyond. *As always subject to RED-change.
 
Rob Anderson said:
They haven't said this won't happen, but reading all of the subtext regarding the 8K upgrade and the carbon fiber itself, you'd need to be on the CF boat to migrate to 8K and beyond. Magnesium is a lesser-expensive Weapon that does not appear to have a future beyond. *As always subject to RED-change.
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If that's the case that there is no upgrade path to 8k Vista Vision from the RED Weapon Magnesium line... this game just got very expensive. Still willing to do all we can do to get on the upgrade path to 8k... just would like some clarity from RED on this issue.
 
Ok. I did the math as anybody else here. 19k plus media, plus modules end up easily at 27k. That's much to much for the possibility to record ProRes proxies. Vista/FF/8K is nice for still photographers but I shoot exclusively on PL glas and S35mm.

Guess Epic Dragon is the final station of my Red trip. Loved that trip, was a interesting bumpy road!

Thanks for the journey!

Hans
 
Things just got real!!
 
Andrae Palmer said:
If that's the case that there is no upgrade path to 8k Vista Vision from the RED Weapon Magnesium line... this game just got very expensive. Still willing to do all we can do to get on the upgrade path to 8k... just would like some clarity from RED on this issue.
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Agreed.

However, one thing is clear: They're offering a 10k additional discount on the 6k to 8k upgrade now, its short term, and is only available to those on the carbon path. If you subtract the side module and PL mount that are not included in the Magnesium upgrade kit, then the difference between the two is about 10k. Well, you just saved yourself 10k by going the carbon path now.

Ie:

Carbon 6k + 10k$ Vista Vision upgrade= 60k (minus current trade in value if applicable)
vs
Magnesium 6k + PL Mount + side-module + 20k Vista Vision upgrade = 60k (minus current trade in value if applicable)

So basically it ends up kiff-kiff, but might as well go carbon now if you're sure you want to end up with the Vista Vision version. . .
 
Patrick Tresch said:
What does Woven mean?
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There are two types of Carbon Fiber models. The internals are the same. The difference is cosmetic primarily and possibly structurally in terms of scuffing and heat. Not sure on that part. But the two types of Weapon Carbon Fiber models are; (1) woven CF which is your traditional carbon fiber looking pattern and (2) forged CF which looks sickadelic.
 
Jonas Klittmark said:
One sort of fine print question - what exactly are we sending in to get the trade-in discount? Brain-only? Brain and SSD?

This impacts the upgrade deal as well since if it is brain only, we'll have a few accessories to sell separately to help with the upgrade cost.
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NOTE: As part of the upgrade, RED requires you send in your DRAGON BRAIN, DSMC SIDE SSD MODULE, and DSMC Lens Mount for evaluation. If RED determines any non-Warranty repairs are necessary we will issue you a service quote before we can proceed with the upgrade.

As stated here:

https://support.red.com/entries/92751667-WEAPON-Upgrade-Credit


 
Rob Anderson said:
There are two types of Carbon Fiber models. The internals are the same. The difference is cosmetic primarily and possibly structurally in terms of scuffing and heat. Not sure on that part. But the two types of Weapon Carbon Fiber models are; (1) woven CF which is your traditional carbon fiber looking pattern and (2) forged CF which looks sickadelic.
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Ok Thx
 
Hats off to RED on Weapon, looks real interesting.

That said, I'm really glad we sold our Epic-X and got off the Red train, the ticket to ride is getting real expensive and you need a very very strong business case to continue on this journey.

We'll be renting but not owning - it's the stress free way to go :w00t:

Scott
 
Jarred Land said:
$34,500 Brain + Media Bay
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So the $34,500 price point is for the Weapon package correct? That means it also includes:
1 WEAPON Sidekick (Magnesium)
1 WEAPON Base Expander
1 WEAPON REDVOLT XL Module
1 WEAPON Top Handle
1 WEAPON Lemo Adaptor A
1 WEAPON Package Case
1 1-Year Standard Warranty

There is no such option as JUST the Brain + Integrated Media Bay.

I'm just making sure I get it and it's not my late night brain playing tricks with me.
 
Is the magnesium version upgradeable to 8k at some point or is that a CF option only? Does the CF version offer anything over magnesium like higher frame rates or anything similar?
 
Michael Jensen said:
Is the magnesium version upgradeable to 8k at some point or is that a CF option only? Does the CF version offer anything over magnesium like higher frame rates or anything similar?
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I'm beginning to think it will not be... judging by the faster 120fps at 6k/prores and larger 33x33x33 3D LUT of the CF version when compared to the lower specs of the magnesium version. The CF version looks like it has a faster engine suitable for 8k.
 
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