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Angenieux - Optimo Style Zooms For Documentary

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Equipment: Angenieux - Optimo Style 16-40, 30-76 and multi 2x extender on RED Epic Camera


I shot a documentary depicting how the rainforests of Peru are under threat due to excessive deforestation and how it is impacting the wildlife there. Although I have a limited budget, I did not compromise on the quality of images for my documentary. I spent 25 days in the rainforests of Peru in November 2014.

I had a 12 Kilograms package: my RED Epic camera and its accessories – The two Optimo Style 16-40 and 30-76 (under 2 Kilograms - 4.2 lbs. each), the 2x extender and a light tripod (5kg - 11lbs). I did all the shots in 5K.

The Optimo Style zooms are very light and compact and were ideal for that kind of work. They took up little space in my bag. With both I was able to get a lot of nice shots and was very pleased having them for that documentary. If I had chosen to use primes I would have needed several of them to cover the same range of focal lengths. The Optimo Style lenses are of excellent quality and I was impressed by their sharpness, the easy way to frame the subject and the fast way of swapping both of zooms on the camera. I used them to shoot both the devastated landscape of La Pampa and monkeys climbing in the trees. They have remarkable performance features and are so easy to use.

The environment was very tuff and hostile, with an average temperature of 37°C (95°F), with humidity at 80%. The lenses worked perfectly in that environment. They were always ready to do the job even after carrying them several hours in the forest. I always kept them in my bag when they were not on the camera and didn’t experience any condensation or moisture on the optics. As far as light went, I filmed virtually everything during the daytime with natural light.

I worked at T: 2.8 on the lenses, which provided enough, light for the camera. I worked mostly on a tripod except for some scenes shot from a car in the dangerous areas. To shoot the monkeys hiding 45 meters in the trees, I used the extender on the 30-76mm, and the same optical configuration to shoot the gold miners from a distance. I primarily used the 16-40 for the scenes shot in La Pampa.

I really liked the smoothness of the rings on the Optimo Style lenses. The focus is smooth and precise. I played a lot with the iris in order to adapt the exposure of the sensor as the light changed often from bright to gray when a cloud was suddenly hiding the sun. I used the camera LCD screen to adjust the aperture of the lens.

The two Optimo Style 16-40 and 30-76 are extremely light weight at 4.2lbs, allowing perfect camera balance for on the shoulder. The colors are very vivid, saturated and contrasty.

Designed for film (compatible with digital) cameras with an impressive contrast & color reproduction. Optimo Style 16-40 and 30-76 are first lightweight hand-held lens with superior optics ideal for Steadicam work & the perfect complement. Extremely fast aperture of T2.8 with no ramping. 320° focus rotation with over 50 precise focus witness marks in feet or meters and no breathing. The Style series is fully compatible with the latest generation of digital cameras, with the resolution 4K and higher, and feature an easily interchangeable mount, with PL-M. Compatible with Optimo 2x & 1.4x range extenders. These lenses have consistent contrast as well as color consistency. I always got the rightly sharp high contrast imagery. The coating on the lenses is a cutting edge. The lenses are marked well and have almost no breathing even at its widest. The focus puller is really smooth and light.

I’m very happy with the result. Overall the Optimo Style 16-40 and 30-76 are one of the best manual zooms ever made for 35mm film photography. They offer the best performances (optical and mechanical) in long focal lengths and wide angles. I can see amazing details on the images like the hair of the monkeys shot from far away and clear water drops on bananas. I shot so you can see why I am excited to have this lens in my arsenal. The compression used to put these shots on the web knocks down the quality a fair bit but you get the idea.


Optimo Style zooms http://www.angenieux.com/zoom-lenses/cinema-portfolio/


To know more about Jérôme Dolbert http://www.jeromedolbert.com/

Documentary http://www.jeromedolbert.com/rainforests_are_under_threat/

IMDb http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5418380/
 
So why would you guys buy the Style zooms when the Rouge versions are mostly equivalent, in some ways better, and readily available for half the price? Other than the design update so the rear elements don't protrude as far, there's really no compelling reason to pick the Style zooms over the Rouge zooms. ....Just curious.
 
So why would you guys buy the Style zooms when the Rouge versions are mostly equivalent, in some ways better, and readily available for half the price? Other than the design update so the rear elements don't protrude as far, there's really no compelling reason to pick the Style zooms over the Rouge zooms. ....Just curious.

I'm also interested in the answer to this!

And Jeff, if you know of a 16-42 Rouge available anywhere for $8500 (1/2 of the $17K that the Style costs)... let me know!

I know Angenieux did that crazy NAB special which was pretty great, but I've not seen them for under $10K.

Bruce Allen
www.twitter.com/bruce_allen
 
The practical advantage of the Style zooms over the Rouge are:
1. Swappable Mounts. PL and EF hot swap. This is a MAJOR advantage for an owner. Arri to RED to C300 to BlackMagic to FS7 to A7S no problem. Good luck using the Rouge set with RAVEN.
2. Proper PL throat distance (as you've mentioned) - again increasing compatibility among the variety of cameras on the market.
3. 4K certified. No - I don't care. Yes - Marketing matters and clients prefer something that's designed for 4K over something that's not.
4. Rouge lens for less than $9K? I don't think so. Maybe $12k if you're patient - and at that price you shouldn't pass it up.
 
Ah, seems I totally forgot the advantage of the swappable mounts. Although, I wouldn't go as far as to call it hot-swappable. They still require a collimation check and potential fine-tuning or shimming on a mount swap. Same with any other swappable-mount lenses on the market at the moment. But yes, huge advantage for owner ops and rental houses alike.

The Rouge zooms are "4K certified" -- says so right on the laminated reference card that comes with them. Not sure just what that means. It's marketing mumbo jumbo.

Rouge lenses are going for about $12~$15K a pop these days and still seem to be preferred in a few circles. I have the 16-42 and 30-80 and I think they're awesome lenses. Actually the lenses I use most in my kit. The deep-protruding rear elements have always been the biggest issue for me. No good with extenders, the RED Motion Mount, mechanical shutters, etc.. But yeah, I already mentioned that. I keep trying to sell the Rouge zooms though as I want to get the new Zeiss FF zooms to better accommodate 8K Weapon. Seems like it's hard to sell lately though -- I guess a lot of people are thinking the same thing. OTOH, I don't mind keeping them because they're great lenses and the Zeiss ones are stupid expensive.

I also have to admit I wasn't up on current pricing of the Style zooms. It seems Angenieux has become a lot more aggressive with the pricing. The Rouge zooms were always overpriced, IMO. Although, I think back when they initially released them and set prices, they were not expecting to sell so many of them. Style zooms first came out and many dealers were selling them at huge markups because people were going nuts trying to buy them. Now that has settled and prices are down to MSRP level or even a bit under from some vendors. So yeah, not going to pick up a Rouge for half.
 
I know it's not documentary, but I just shot a piece for Dior using my new Style Optima's for the 1st time, and I couldn't be happier. Just the IQ coming out of that glass is absolutely breathtaking! Anywhere you point that lens to, it looks gorgeous. I have used the "old" optimo's, in the past, both the expensive ones and the DP's and I have to say that the Style is a step above them, specially when it comes to flaring:
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I just shot these lenses on my red epic dragon and had really big issues with vignetting. I wanted to shoot 6k WS but ended up having to drop down to 5k WS and even then my images still suffered from it.

I loved the look out of it and i'm sure it's saving me a bit of extra grading time on this particular doco but I wonder why they have advertised this sense as 4k and beyond when it clearly isn't........user issue perhaps?

I only had an afternoon to play before my shoot as they are the only set in Australia at the moment.

They are a perfect set and the image is stunning, i'll give them that.
 
I just shot these lenses on my red epic dragon and had really big issues with vignetting. I wanted to shoot 6k WS but ended up having to drop down to 5k WS and even then my images still suffered from it.

I loved the look out of it and i'm sure it's saving me a bit of extra grading time on this particular doco but I wonder why they have advertised this sense as 4k and beyond when it clearly isn't........user issue perhaps?

I only had an afternoon to play before my shoot as they are the only set in Australia at the moment.

They are a perfect set and the image is stunning, i'll give them that.

Really? i had used the older Angenieux and we needed an adapter to avoid that issue but i had heard that wasn't a problem with the new style lenses..? maybe the WS has a problem.. did you try shooting at just 6K?
 
I know it's not documentary, but I just shot a piece for Dior using my new Style Optima's for the 1st time, and I couldn't be happier. Just the IQ coming out of that glass is absolutely breathtaking! Anywhere you point that lens to, it looks gorgeous. I have used the "old" optimo's, in the past, both the expensive ones and the DP's and I have to say that the Style is a step above them, specially when it comes to flaring:

These stills are indeed beautiful! How does the new Optimo Style line perform wide-open regarding sharpness? I've always loved the Optimo DP zooms, especially for their out of focus characteristics, but considered them rather soft when shot at T2.8. Did Angenieux really tweak or re-design the optics?
 
I loved the look out of it and i'm sure it's saving me a bit of extra grading time on this particular doco but I wonder why they have advertised this sense as 4k and beyond when it clearly isn't........user issue perhaps?.

That's what everyone means when they say that 4k is just a marketing term when it comes to lenses. 4k is a pixel count, not a sensor size. The number 4k on it's own is meaningless when you are talking about coverage because it's related to pixel size and sensor size. So 4k on a DRAGON is smaller than Super 35 but 4k on a Varicam 35 is almost exactly Super 35.

When a manufacturer says that a lens covers 4k it means that the lens is capable of resolving 4k+ worth of detail. That's it. But pretty much every dslr lens is designed to resolve 4k+ already so it's not an impressive designation, just more marketing mumbo jumbo.
 
So, is it fair to say that the new Style zooms cover less then the older DP's on the Dragon sensor?
 
These lenses cover 5.5K on the Dragon all the way through (at least WS) They cover 6K but not the wider focal lengths.
All of these shots were wide open.

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